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@Rluthi Don't worry about a thing. Corporate America's got our back . They have a Plan for us. Peer into a dark hole . Do you see anything?

He's a truck driver. What do you expect?

Guys thanks for your advice and suggestions. I appreciate all of it but I am under severe time constraints. Usually away from the house about 77 hrs/wk. It looks like 4' of bungee. I use those stainless long line snaps from ATLANTIC. 2' subs would be nice but I can't trust the locals. It's easier to dive and hunt than to replace a sub. But really thanks.

My subs are 6' deep. ( to keep the idiots from screwing w/them ) Would you go w/4" of bungee? Is 50% stretch the norm or too conservative. I.E.' 1'=1.5', 2'=3', 4"=6" Thanks

@Edbrazil Thanks Ed. Appreciate it.

Thanks guys preciate it. Never had these before I'll give them a try. If these start disappearing I'll go back to rubber. The Price is Right

@Zman now I know what that rusty metal was sticking inside

@Bruce_Butterfield Thanks Bruce, I was looking right at that and never even saw it

Paid $9 a bouy w/free shipping. They are 5" across so a little small but before I run down to the hardware store and rig something to attach the bungee do you guys have a tried and true method? (nothing but a hollow center hole top to bottom) Thanks

It depends on where you live. I have a 1990 Challenger. The interior was probably 85% but I decided to get it done. I delivered to a lot of Amish and one man in particular was absolutely excellent. I hate to make you guys feel bad I got the whole interior and I mean the whole interior installed with new carpet install for $1,000 flat. That also included digital embroidery to match the original. And let me tell you it looks good. They're like anyone else you have good and not so good the trick is finding them. Another part of the story was I dropped it off in November it was May 1st and boat wasn't done. I told him just give me the drivers back and we will have to work on it piece by piece. He finished the whole entire boat 5 days later. If you don't press them it'll take awhile.

@skidawg if you apply the questions in your post to an everyday life analogy - corporate america-it happens everyday. Falsely accuse someone-unjustly punish the accused-and then not let the accused defend themselves. It is unfortunate but all too common a reality. Simply because you or I and others may exhibit honesty integrity and loyalty do not ever expect it to be reciprocal. In a similar recent experience I learned a VERY painful lesson. I didn't coin this expression but it is true "If you leave this world with one true friend you have left a richer person than most".

I remember the monthly magazine. I still remember some of their stories. Will there be any other Meloons at CC after him?

@lpskier. John the same guy Lex dealt with at NYS for his permit is the same guy I dealt with. Maybe I have the depts. mixed up. When he said no permit necessary - I said. "thank you very much".

@MISkier That certainly looks like plenty of time. He was gliding for a while. Thanks for that.

@MISkier . Almost forgot this bit of information. I was talking to Eric at Perfect Pass and they will have some new software this spring. It will work for drive by wire and mechanical. It will be more aggressive for short setups and will also not require a major slow down when going around the turn Islands. He said that this version that most people are running right now is basically the prototype for an all pure GPS system. I think I have 8.06 or 8.07 one of the two.

@Edbrazil thank you for all your efforts. Nice work I appreciate it. My wife was impressed that someone would go that far to answer a stranger's question.

@Bruce_Butterfield I try to keep her happy.

@OB1 Thanks George. That's great.

@lpskier @Edbrazil @Bruce_Butterfield @OB1 I agree with the circling in but my wife won't have it. Everything thing I do as as far her driving me has to be done with her being comfortable at the helm. I tried everything thing out there and she was at her best going straight out and straight in. I just drop straight behind and brake with the ski to keep the rope tight and my wife just spins the boat in its length at an idle and we head straight back in. Poor analogy but Its like this- if I don't like her cooking - don't eat it, cook it yourself. Same thing with her driving. She's the boss. It's a 1990 240 HP 351 Ford. It's an excellent runner - but it is what it is. That is true and I agree that w/ZO no problem. A friend had an 1100' 8 ball. With his CC 200 W/ZO we were up to speed @ 55's everytime. (So smoothly also.) Unfortunately my pockets are not that deep. The nice thing about the 8 ball is all I have to do is remap it and my wife wont have to change a thing. I have tried to explain the 8 ball idea to her but she cant get come to grips with it. "How's it going to be shorter with 2 more balls?" Ed you you are correct. That's the lake. The centerline you plotted is very close to actual. My friend is a licensed engineer and does have a total station survey survey setup. Yes John, Lex is the one who would shoot it. But check this out John - NYS terms it private water due to there being no access other than the private launch. When I went for the permit NYS Parks and and Recreation said not necessary. He went to to Google Earth and checked it out. Lot of drama in my life recently. I dont think I'm going to get to pulling the anchors this year. I've run out of time. ( the most precious of of commodities) George I'll show my wife your 8 ball video Thanks everyone.

Guys so sorry I can't answer in-depth right now. 16 hours today. Have to drive an hour home. I've read everything. I so appreciate everyone's advice and thoughts.

20 years ago I put this in. Then the owner told me to leave because I was " disturbing the CDN geese" ( like we don't have enough of them down here ) All this while him threatening me w/guns. So I left. The new owner let me go back in there this year. To my surprise every single sub-bouy and anchor were still there. It is tight. I have about 350-390 for the set-up. Not enough room for pregates. Mechanical PP with Zbox does a very good job. But it usually locks on just before the turn in. It goes like this - Hit it- clear the spray- pullout- TURN! No margin for error. So a friend has offered to survey an 8 ball for me which is great but what do you think of this. Please tell me what you think. As I laid this out 20 years ago I put it in directly in the middle of the lake. Equidistant everywhere. Now if I lay the 8 ball out now (inlet to outlet) it may give at the boat at the most 50' more for the boat in additional length wise but what it also gives the boat at the south end is an even turning area. Right now when you exit the south end the boat can only turn left. ( or east ) No big deal because you have to stop the boat anyway but it would make it a little easier for the driver and skier. But this is my major question- if I lay out this new 8 ball I would have at the closest turn ball 35' to 50' from shore. ( it's all wetlands so it's not like I would hit a tree, beach or a dock.) Right now at the closest turn ball I have approximately 113' beyond the turnball to shore. Do you guys feel or think that 35' to 50' from shore is UNSAFE given the conditions - wetlands. I had back surgery 1 year ago and everything I do now I want to avoid unnecessary risk if possible. I skied on my '97 KD 7000 this year because I refused to spend money on anything new if unable to ski at a decent level after back surgery. So given a one year layoff from skiing -the limitations of my new lake - back surgery - I was able to get into 32' a couple times so I guess I can still ski somewhat. I'll be 59 ( hurts to see that in print) next year so at all costs I want to avoid injury. But on the other hand maybe I am being overly concerned about the distance to shore. thank you for any input.

@OB1 Nice looking rides there

Man you guys are scaring the shit out of me. If my wife reads any of these she'll never drive the boat again

Pretty cool father you got. Happy birthday to your dad. Do you guys still ski together?

Glad to see they didn't keep you down.