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Thank you @ColeGiacopuzzi. @skialex, I am using with the MOB so should be good. I asked because I like the new Vapor boot a lot but my super low instep foot sometimes slides forward if I let my ski get out in front of me off the second wake (I am working hard to keep over the ski more on my off-side pull but it's a work in progress). When this happens, the slide is just enough that my big toe can sometimes hurt from hitting the front/inside of the toe cap. I'm considering either trying the strap or adding a strap that attaches either to the back screw or the two side screws. That would keep the strap over my instep and prevent loss in a fall. Not sure it will work as intended but worth a shot. At this point in our season I'll probably fiddle over the winter, water is already 60F and extended forecast shows air in the mid-50s for the next week+.

@ColeGiacopuzzi, the intuition strap that @skialex shows earlier in this thread, is it supposed to go over the boot like that or around the liner inside of the boot? There were no instructions so I have not been using the strap.

Get some Kevlar thread. If you really can’t fins it anywhere, most craft and sowing stores will that or at least have an extra strong thread.

Ouch!!! My head and neck hurts just thinking about that crash.

I can think of one pro skier who may disagree. One of my ski partners got the ML Super Spectra and I can't say I'm super impressed. The ski protection tubing is a poor design. It is three separate sections of tubing and they use short sections of tubing from Y to handle. This causes the tubing to push up towards the handle and exposed sections of the spectra. Guy I ski with had to add tape at the Y to keep this from happening because his sharper edged ski was hitting the spectra. I'm also not a big fan of coating spectra with plastic. It's a strong material with good abrasion resistance on its own and I like that uncoated spectra is easy to inspect. I'm not sure how to properly inspect with the plastic coating.

I can't provide no help but (if this works) I am already thinking about how to add this to a 2021 Prostar along with a separate fuel gauge. It would be amazing to finally have a reliable gauge on that boat.

Yes. Doesn't look like I can edit that response now. In my post above, Vapor is the New Vapor (plastic bottom) and the Vector instructions apply to Vector and previous (softer) Vapor. Sorry for any confusion.

If I understand @ColeGiacopuzzi, it depends on the Radar boot. Vapor - measure from the bottom of the boot (easy). Vector - measure at the stitching on the back of the boot and not the rear most point (you can't easily get to the bottom most point with a tape measure on this boot). I recently switched from Vector to Vapor boot on the MOB system, giving me the opportunity to see how the two boots measure when in the same mounting position and I checked my ankle position. For me, the two boots at the same mounted ski position measured the same DFT and located my ankle at the same place on the ski.

The idea of pushing with your legs as the load comes on should be followed with extreme caution. Doing this method incorrectly can lead to torn hamstrings. This is how my dad tore two of the three in his front foot and ended his skiing for good (he was in his early 70s). His doctor said that water skiing starts is one of the most common way to do this and is caused by extending the front leg while getting pulled forward just too far. This was an crappy injury.

O’Neill makes tall sizes and the others don’t so I’m locked into one brand. Thank goodness O’Neill makes good stuff.

@h2oSkiJunkie is standup And honest, as always.

I believe Corey has plans for people who are regulars and has lower pricing for sets without coaching. You should send him a message or give him a call. Easy to get a place on Lake Anna for personal/family water time and use Corey's for course sets, assuming you have the means. https://www.peaceloveandwaterskiing.com/

100%!!!! Some I ski with like to get pulled through the water a bit, feel the load, and get water moving around them. I have a real different position than most, but it works every time for me. I HATE being dragged along. Just get slack out of the rope and GO! I'll get up either way but it's instant when from rest, don't even get my face wet.

I'll tuck my tail and say that I was wrong. The picture really looks like that rubber is blue and your wear is exactly what a lot of the blue bomb rubber ends up looking like. Sorry for the confusion.

The InTow handle that is blue was called the Blue Bomb handle.

My handle, which I believe is the same as the one @Wish posted, cost me $200. That isn't a cheaper handle so I don't understand what you are getting at.

I didn't realize that I asked a question. What question did I answer?

Everyone is so touchy when it comes to a product wearing down fast or failing quickly. I am fairly sure that I have the same handle as @Wish and it cost a lot more than $100. I use Amara gloves and mainly ski at 15 off 2-3 times per week. Mine is still okay after a year but the rubber has little tags from where it has started to separate just the smallest bit. All others in my ski group use the big name (I dare not say brands) that is the same price as mine and they ski as much or more than I do from 28 to 38 off. Those handles last multiple years with Kevlar gloves. I'm going to keep a close eye on mine and get a different brand once it gets to the point where @Wish is. One thing I know from experience is don't mess with handle grip. I tried to push it on one a few years ago and injured my wrist from a loss of grip that I overlooked. That took 4 months, a brace, and lots of PT to recover from.

I’m fairly sure many will know the brand by the color. Mine is likely to start doing this within the next year. You could send it back to the company or get a new handle from a competitor. I’m not too happy about it considering the cost. It didn’t last as long as others I’ve seen at this price.

Back on topic: Crazy scores and insane heart from these skiers. They give so much!

I'm not trying to manufacture drama, just something I noticed. I know that Corey is enjoying his KD ski but have no idea if S-Lines is what he uses at his school. You are likely right about the sponsorship deal being a package thing. I always notice when an athlete is sponsored but doesn't use that product. Maybe this isn't the case but I assume (foolishly?) that a sponsored athlete likely gets the associated products for free or steep discounts. If so, choosing a different product doesn't show well. Again, not trying to drum up drama but found it to be an interesting observation and I do think you are right about the package deal. Riding a competitor's ski is obviously a real egregious example. Riding different branded bindings I overlook without question. Binding changes are huge and it can be nearly impossible to get the same feel with a different setup. It does seem that most HO skiers go with their hardshell and other brand skiers use Reflex or T Factor. Again, probably sticking with what they are used to because of the huge change a binding makes.

On big scores, how about Corey Vaughn pulling out the 3.5 under the gun in round 2? Hell of a lot of heart (and willingness to sacrifice the body). Sucks that he had to because of a handle length but damn what determination. I found it interesting that his handle would be long considering he was using a Masterline super spectra. Spectra rope doesn't have much give after the initial set so maybe it was brand new and hadn't been loaded before initial measurement. I would have thought Masterline would have put some amount of load on it before testing length but maybe that isn't normal. On a related side note, I couldn't help but notice that Corey is sponsored by S-Lines but uses a Masterline handle. In most other sports, using a competitor's product on the world stage is a big fopaux for a sponsored athlete.

Just got the new Vapor. Before I removed my Vector from the MOB plate, I marked my ankle location on the ski with my fibula perpendicular to the ski top surface. Mounted the Vapor boot to the MOB plate and my ankle is at the same spot with the same plate location. Back of both boots also measured the same DFT at this location.

We tried that and it went way off fairly quickly. We tend to get gas from different stations and ethanol changes throughout the year here. That all means the ethanol in our tank can change a lot each with each fill.

I just did this a few weeks ago with our 2021. Pull the back center step and the tank has a left and right side (obviously connected). Place a tape measure on a side with the hook on the bottom. Mark the following with a sharpie. These are fairly close based on knowing the size of the tank, filling in known quantities and measuring at each, and fitting with a best fit line. Luckily the tank cross-sectional area is nearly constant with height. In reality the cross-section of the top of the tank gets smaller so the top bit goes down faster. Let me know if you have questions. 1/4 full = 1 7/8 in 1/2 full = 3 3/4 in 3/4 full = 5 5/8 in