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You're alignment is decent but your concept of action is incorrect. We can all have the best intentions but if our actions are the opposite of what they need to be, we'll fall apart. OR we’ll be stuck on a pass banging the wall. Meaning, if you get a world class gate but are letting go with the wrong hand at 1 ball, all is lost and it's a dead end. It's so obvious with some of the advice on here in other threads. You must fix the big rock, how you lean against the boat. Have you ever really work on your lean position by definition? Once you move in for the gate, you've got to have semblance of proper fundamentals. If not, the folks coaching an ideal gate only are wasting your time but with good intentions. (Current gate is fine for 22 and not what’s holding you back) Pretty consistent theme for the "stackers" to be fighting their own bodies. Basically your concept of your “how to get into a leveraged position" is all jacked up. It's really not that hard as currently you are squatting on the ski. Probably from years of being told "bend your kneeeeeeesss!!" 1) Stand up on the ski. Should be a natural position, DON’T press into your feet as it drives you hips/COM back. 2) Don't generate energy by using your arms. aka DON'T PULL ON THE ROPE. Loosen your arms up and know ZO is going to do the work. 3) Literally, loose arms, lean OVER the edge of your ski NOT lean BACK OVER THE FIN block and let the ski slip through the water. Guarantee you won't die and your alignment will be much cleaner. (you're actually not leaning over the fin block like the majority of the S&P'ers do and are already setup for success on this concept). Right now you are a "Squat and Puller" which is rooted in the two things of "trying to stack" and "bend your knees". You've got to do the opposite. Well dang, I was going to page @jhughes to the squat and puller courtesy phone. @jhughes, already picked up line 1! He's got credibility as he reformed himself a few years back. Props!!! Props to you for putting up video and putting yourself out there as well. What the heck is wrong with my fonts? I'm posting from my jitterbug phone and it looks fine.

@aupatking How has the skiing been in training or tournaments? Any new video?

Classic thread derailment for the OP's original intention lol

That’s great that you posted video. It takes courage to put yourself out there. you’re putting “4” in the books but would you be able to run 6? Are your fundamentals strong enough to even cut it to 35? Just my free opinion after watching the video, putting energy into working on the edge change is going to be an extremely low ROE activity and not your big rock holding you back. it’s all about fundamentals and we have to reevaluate them for every pass.

32 is where the squat and pull starts to hit the wall. A skier can have all the best "stack" in the world but if their go-to move to generate ski slip through the water is pulling and squatting to get more energy or load, their "stack" is going to break down. It mechanically/physically has to break down due to the physics as the body can't hold the energy. related note, "stack" is probably the worst word to describe it. stack is a static, vertical, rigid word. you stack cinder blocks, bricks etc. a column is "stacked" and vertical. Alignment. that's the real word as it's dynamic, ever changing, using your muscle to keep or get back to alignment. while our shoulders are against the boat and we are not vertical but elongated at an angle relative to the water. Most skiers i have seen that talk and think in stack, are crushed, "tall" over the water, not really leaning but they are fighting to be stacked!! For clarity, we're talking spray to spray here. Post video please? Twhispers video: WOW. That is one of the best videos out there with quite a few elements which are very hard to describe. My point in my text, if you are squatting and pulling, the video starting at the 1:02 mark, flat out will not work. Look how clean loose and aligned he is at 1:05? Dang, I need to send Twhisper more video of my deep water starts and see what he thinks. I missed one the other day.

im so hot to trot right right now. some yummy potential action. I can't find a running order?? Can someone provide a link, PDF, post a jpeg or other??? You've been pretty active in my discussions but never stepped up to the plate. i should hire you as my attorney.

@rockdog After further investigation, the OP is not a shill but, young and naïve. Probably more likely a fangirl. Might work for mastercraft or is an orlando skier too. But otherwise, 6,000 views of 1 thread in 5 days!! wowsas! THE CLICKING BUSINESS IS GOOD!

smells like skifly up in here with a new user, with no personal contact information, no credibility, passionately, emotionally fighting anyone who disagrees with them while having only 13 posts. manon is that you?

Holy smokes. Your above post probably went by so many folks and is one of the most highly valued posts in this thread. Thank you so much for posting this as it's an euraka moment for me and something I don't do nor is in my script: Bring your center mass to your elbows not your elbows to your center mass, and you do this by keeping your chest up off the second wake. I've been watching a ton of videos and scratching my head "how" to do a couple of finishing positions for shortline. I think that above is a milestone in the process. For clarity, I agree with chest up but if you don't drive those hips "out" or "forward" the chest alone isn't good enough for 38/39+. Chest only is probably good through 35. The comment about elbows pinning to vest. This one is hilarious. I've "argued" with quite a few 4@32-2@35 guys who harp on doing this while they create a hinge, break at the waist and ski straight to the buoys. Meanwhile, not progressing any further. I am all about having a clean, clear script of action, but too many skiers lose sight of "when & where" they are supposed to be doing things. It's almost hilarious when their ego kicks while flailing about.

Sometimes it's unintentional!!

someone will be along but it looks like men’s 1 the cutoff is around 2@28 off or so? basically, you’ll need to see 2 ball or better probably consistently to be qualified. (It might be 4 ball).

Reading my post I never found I used the word “stubborn”. More than likely used fixed mindset vs growth mindset. Probably should have use more words about a skiers ego, fear of failure, lack of belief in their coaches, lack of belief in themselves, lack of accountability, lack of faith in the process, lack of persona accountability, lack of trust. stubborn, that’s a victim word or blame word I don’t use versus personal accountability with action. Sorry. hence why if you look at the standard bell curve of total skiers scores, “average” it’s about 2-3@32 off or so. Mid-pack, there’s nothing wrong with that This is a mental sport of high accountability. Not a sport of gear solutions, physical and silver bullets of technique. Until a skier realizes it, they’ll be average and stuck for years.

How silly! wonder if that was the optimized rope from 2020 or a S-Lines?

squat and pull baby! october 14: https://ballofspray.com/forums/topic/36370-long-lineshort-line-are-they-really-that-different/page/2/#comment-822955 August 21: https://ballofspray.com/forums/topic/50608-how-to-keep-ski-on-edge-thru-the-wakes/#comment-839551 July 27: https://ballofspray.com/forums/topic/50487-building-consistency-gradual-speed-increase-question/#comment-837815 https://ballofspray.com/forums/topic/49146-congratulations-jhughes-first-nationals-via-a-pb-at-regionals/#comment-445815

SQUAT AND PULLERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!! (while throwing a fist while squatting over the fin block with bent arms) Seriously, I've posted 3-5 replies in threads about this concept versus "loose and lean, fight your mind, dance with the boat. let the ski slip through the water. DONT pull yourself across the course." ZERO OFF. Back in the day, perfect PASS and the hand driving, SQUAT and PULL was the name of the game. Those guys are stuck now and very stubborn. They'll make all kinds of excuses or fight you. Meanwhile, they aren't running any new buoys. Unfortunately, with the website update, the search feature doesn't go back after September of 2022 by author. I would provide links to the threads with quite a bit of breakdown but alas.

Now that I am down from 240lbs, folks have let me ride in the boat, dang IPA's. My above statements I put to the eye test on every skier (but not judging them verbally or other) but seeing if the theories held true. Sure enough, all of the above held true as I saw all of the above. Classic pattern recognition. I got a couple of deep water starts in and a few of the items applied to myself as well. Still true. But isn't that why we keep coming back? Why do we really ski?

What a blast from the past. 57 years ago! Wow that's like a different sport and different era. Very cool, thanks for sharing. Just curious, why compare to photos 57 years ago at a nearly different sport versus video or photos from last season? What's the strategy here?

It certainly makes us appreciate usawaterski.org, our membership fees and volunteers. Meanwhile for the moomba website and live stream fiasco: If the company I worked for would have rolled that total system out, we would have been fired. If I was a sponsor and paid money for that, I would be looking to terminate the contract. I would also be looking for a decision maker to hold accountable. But it looks like Correct Craft and Brian Sullivan et. al approve of that level of quality and representing them! Surprising as that is not the "Ski Nautique" of the past in quality and communication.

He's still the best skier in the world and probably the best slalom skier ever. Amazing win. Navigating the website for live scoring and then the webcast. It's like it was from a second world country or a high school IT team. Laughable. So grateful for what we have in the US for waterskiresults.com, TWBC and others supporting the sport.

It's pretty amazing. April 15, 2008 Tony L. and I were swapping emails, merged files and then we ran with it. Several years later, he got busy with TWSBC and told me to keep the tradition alive. Now almost 14 years later, it's nearly fully built out with 450+ ski sites globally and these are just tournament style lakes! WOW. Honored to be a part of something that can help people around the world and promote the sport. If anyone has new sites to be added, please contact me directly facilitate it!

files good, just checked. some nice sites in that file as I see grass growing at site sponsor Pentalago, south Florida.

ski_sites_22.1 12-15-22.kmz

Skiers working through:-15/32mph-22off Squat and pull with muscles, shoulders are titled, "elbows pinned" to vest creating a dangerous hinge!!. It’s a protective posture to: “Keep from crashing” “Help me pull to the next buoy” “Have to run this pass” “Crossing the wakes is scary” 28: forms better but usually skiers are skiing with their muscles not their frame. It’s doable at 28. Still some squat and pull action, bent arms and a$$ dragging across the boat. 32: have to start skiing with your frame and not pulling on the rope or fighting the boat with muscle power trying to cross the wakes. First line length which requires “loose lean, hold position and work the ski”. 35: to own it, have to ski with your legs not your arms. Lots of arm sweeping, bent arms, handle sweeping at the buoy is typically done by guys not owning it and guys NOT skiing with their legs. 38: have to ski with your feet not just your legs 39: have to ski with your hands and your feet and your legs. 41:??? Only Nate really knows! Typically what happens is the previous learning block is trying to be deployed in the current block. That doesn’t work. “What it took to get here doesn’t allow me to get there” axiom directly applies. This is one of the biggest things holding skiers back as you have to retool or rescript for the next pass. You can’t just “ski better” or “ski more!” That’s called junk buoys versus deliberate practice. Gratefully, Skiing at okeeheelee the last 10+ years 12 months of the year has been like a test bed or a magnifying glass. Watching all the skiers come and go, winter skiers, Yankees coming down. It’s a big fish bowl watching patterns emerge of success and failure. Focus on the next pass big rocks while being brutally honest and focused. Otherwise you’re running junk buoys, chasing minor details, chasing over-hyped silver bullet skis or flavor of the month coaching. (holy font issues watman, wth.)

Southern Regionals at Lymanland. Any dates proposed or locked in yet for this one?