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Nice photo. I will stop by sometime and put some hours on her!

@skierjp exactly. You won’t see many club boats at tournaments other than at ski schools given there is no promo credit or support.

@WoodySkier in the last few years, some of the BD events did not fill up. The sponsors would rather have fewer events that fill. But to be fair, the sponsors would be happy to have more than 3 events if they fill. In another effort to drive attendance, the format has been tweaked/expanded. Between these two changes I expect the events to be very well attended this year, and we will take it forward from here. @ski6jones your understanding of the points system is correct. Yes, attending both events gives you a big advantage. But once again, driving attendance is a goal. It will be interesting to see how this impacts the field at the finals in FL. My guess is, a few skiers will get in on the merits of attendance rather than performance, but not many.

@skimtb depends on how they are running. Probably 1,500 or so. 2,000 max. They may run longer but loose power and reliability after that. We change the oil every 50hrs which in the summer is every other weekend!

I own one CP, and have a partial interest in 2 more we have at our club lake. I love these boats and was super bummed when the decision was made to put the program on hold. When it’s time, we will probably put new drivetrains in the 2 at the club lake and keep running them. Nothing against the big three, but we love the CP and would save a ton of money. We run 600hrs a year so even rolling into a promo costs a lot.

@jcamp well said. I shake my head sometimes when people complain about the cost of rides. The true cost can be so much higher than $20 or $50 a set, depending on the site/situation. Not in response to @jcamp: But on the other hand, for me, my commitment to boat and the private site is sunk and I would have to pull a lot of pricey guest rides to make a dent in the true cost. So instead, I write it off and there is some element of pay it forward. That said, please don’t bitch about $25 a ride! Show up, have fun and help out and you are welcome back.

Great question. In his early 50s, Mapple could still cruise through 41 at 36mph. If he had he same equipment 25 years earlier what would he have run? Let’s say Andy could run 1@43 at the age of 50ish. How many bouys would Andy add if he were Nate’s age?

6’0 tall, 6’6” wingspan. I figured wingspan was higher but surprised by how much

I personally do none of the above. Figure out what is missing and go to a pass where you can work on it. Once ready, proceed back up the rope. Repeat. But this is just me and other things may work well for others. When skiers are working on new speeds, I will sometimes slow the boat down a few tenths from the new challenging speed. But once at full speed I don’t typically slow down. A narrow course would be fun to try. Marcus and Matt have this option at the Ridge but I have never tried it. I like this better than half loops but obviously more involved. A good driver helping you finish a pass is nice, and works. But it’s much harder to do than most people think.

@wawaskr good question. You are a tweaner. Try both. But I bet it’s still 67”

Common @skidawg , I will hang out with you even if horton doesn’t. And if memory serves, you did pretty well when you came out the last time.

@seangilbert those are summer settings for 90 degree water. This said, I don’t change my settings much or at all in the winter, even if I should. I might move my boots for water temp so won’t really know that number till things warm up. Our water is about 50 now!

@seangilbert I run very close to the "standard" settings. 6.777/2.495/0.709 but 8 degrees and usually boots farther back. I just got my new XTR a week ago and haven't settled on binding location, but likely 29.0". @mbabiash somewhere in the forum is a comparison written by Dave Goode that was spot on. In short, the Revolution is quicker and easier to get side to side. In the turns the XTR will be a bit more forgiving. So if you are an efficient technician, you may prefer the Revolution. If you don't mind doing a bit more work behind the boat to get automatic turns, maybe the XTR. Personally, I dont know which I will ride next year, and I have one of each. I know other team skiers like Miller and Badal ski very well on both. Ideally skiers should try both and see what fits them best.

I am 6’ 0” and 190 (thanks to the Holdiays but 185 in the summer). I have been on both 67” and 68” XTRs. I ski 34mph into 41. The 68” feels good to me through 35’ off. The extra length of course makes it easier to get side to side. But at 38 and shorter the turns are too big. I ride a 67” (Revolution or XTR) and this size is the right size for me. Right mix of cross course speed and easy to turn at short lines. Try running your wing at 8 degrees. What are your binding measurements? Not sure going forward will be the way to make it less work.

It feels a bit like a ski with increased tail rocker. It is as noticeable as a significant fin adjustment. If I had a D3 that was a little flat I would try a higher rocker block.

Must be the new ML rope. Nate once told me the first time he ever ran 41 was at Tynan’s in a dry suit. Ps. I love ML ropes and am glad to see they are motivated to improve on a great product. But couldn’t help with the joke.

Got to pick up a fresh ski today. Thanks Greg Badal, Dave Goode and Martin Kolman!

Thanks @adamhcaldwell for your insight as always. Having read your post I needed to clairify mine.

3@41 @34mph. I am not insisting this is right for all, it’s just what I try to do Into first wake: be progressive, not static. Allow angle to build and try for peak angle at first wake Off second wake: keep the rope tight in both hands, let my ski cast out. “Strong hands and light feet” Edit: when I said max angle, I don’t mean the maximum possible or trying to get more. I mean timing such that the most angle I will get on that particular swing behind the boat. I tend to get angle too soon and too close to the buoy. I am better off when I felt like my maximum angle is at the first wake. I will now refer to it as peak angle.

Thanks @horton. Inaccurate speculation is a waste of time especially when the exact story of the Carbon Pro wind down has been shared and there is in fact no connection for decision making between the programs. I think it can be simplified as: Carbon Pro was going to get a refresh to make it easier/faster to build and therefore continue as one of the most economical new boat options we have. The R&D got messed up, they ran out of time for 2018, enter in unrelated C level objectives and decision made to put it all on hold. 100% in house decision confirmed to me by those who were in the meeting with the CEO. 2019 SN, IMO is intended to be the ultimate ski boat with all the bells and whistles to justify a high price point that makes sense for Nautique to build in their factory next to $200k wakeboard boats. Nautique might be offended to even compare this boat to a carbon pro. 2019 200 seems like a great shot at the lower price point end of our market for new boats achieved through partnering with a different factory at what I assume is a lower cost. Nautique may have other aspects to their reasons for the new 200 (we heard it was originally being built for EU?) but I don’t know if any of us understand the actual inside business detail.

@buoyboy I was thinking the same thing on driving. Driving always matters, but I think 35 is the pass where it starts to really matter.

Dude is crazy talented and super fun to watch. He also appears to have crazy fast relflexes. I expect he will be challenging to win any event he enters very soon. My guess is “the move” off the 2nd wake is a not deliberate action but rather a result. When I ski my best I feel the boat pull me up over my ski after the second wake. Even better, you feel the boat pull you up course as you approach the ball. I looks to me he is trying to ride the line as high as he can and consequently we see him pulling in a bit at the very top. The “second move” as he finishes the turn looks to me like he is just keeping the rope tight as he comes back from the apex to the load.

@disland haha. Look at his hips behind the boat from 1 to 2. Its surprising how much it helps to have your hips totally locked it. Its one of those core issues that once you fix, a bunch of other coachable targets disappear

Nice skiing out there in Japan. It’s hard when you dont have help so good for you for posting. Great looking site as well. Get your hips up. Learn the totally stacked position and keep your hips locked in from the moment you get up until you drop on the other end. Practice at 14m and 13m and then take it to 12m. You can feel it on shore as well. Your hips are just behind you in a defensive position. Learn to get them over your feet. With your body position locked in you will be better able to dictate how you move through the Wakes. I agree with others you come up to soon in the gate going to one ball. Then, you pull a bit to long into 2 ball. If your hips were up you get more momentum through your edge change and you would get more space to set up the next turn. Your ski looks fine and your turns are good. Clean up the body position through the Wakes and tune where you start to pull and where you change edges and you will get down 12m

Skied NorCal yesterday, it was nice. I am in MI today and while its probably skiable, I will pass. 50 air and 50s water.