ThePantsManCan

HO A4? AWSA approved, Dr. Michaels retractable ski course? The worlds first Nitrogen Gas Core Carbon Fin? Iron-on "Andy Mapple Legs" (So you can run 41 off too?")

Let's just send Horton donations! Sweet Picture. I'd be hard pressed to find a better pic of skiing, much less a full panoramic version that equals the pic of Asher!

@Wish, Oh and my name "ThePantsManCan" is just a take on a goofy thing my wife says about "RubberBandMan". Something like the "RubberBandManCan, wraps it up and makes the world taste good." I have no idea where she got it, but my cat's name is Pants. So..... Maybe next year, It could be ThePantsManCanRun32Off!!!!!

I'm in the path here in right of center Pennsylvania. Had to drag the dock out ASAP after a final ski for the year. Button up the cabin, tie dock to cabin, remove the van from its location and bring it back home , and of course fight with the generator to power my home. I am currently banging my head against the wall trying to work it's bugs out!!!! aaarghh!

@Wish, you responded real fast and the first words of my next post Sounds ignorant now... Hah! Yeah I'll tell you what. Such a great boat and holy moly what a ski. Soooo easy on the body and I was very surprised how smooth the Co-Xsl was in rough water. It is going to eat at my brain all winter as I never got into the course with it. ( we pulled it a week before I got the ski) D'oh! But for right now, I suppose I'll be busy enough battling with the IMPENDING DOOM that is Hurricane Sandy!

Back on subject... Try a lot of skis. FUN! Do a demo program. Regardless, expect to pay for it. What is more expensive? $300 spent on skis you will never own? which is then applied to the final cost of the one you love the most? Or $1,200-$2,000 spent on a ski you realize is too much work or too big or too blah blah blah...?

Sure is funny @Wish. I have found my way to the Co-Xsl as well. Partly because of Horton's review and partly because of when doing a search on BallOfSpray, all other information I could gather in regards to that ski was written by you! Crap, I also drive a Supra Comp. Thanks for your opinions on those boats as well!

More importantly, and with the utmost seriousness, could I perhaps be FreeBaller!

OK I'll answer my own question here. I called HO and they said that the new website does not have all the information up on it that they want. Work in Progress as you can imagine. The settings for a 67" Coefficient X SL is: Fin 2.50 Depth 6.8 or so Length (tips) .780 DFT Wing 8* Binding Location Front Boot: 29-1/2 Again this is for the 67" Coex Only

Anyone have These numbers? I can find what Horton posted for the 2010 ski in his review. Thought maybe there could be some changes made to the newest Coex, that would cause the newer skis to have some revised numbers. But I cant for the life of me find good boot placement numbers. What is stock?

I'd like to be the first to ask for "Addicted to BOS" next to my name. Essentially, I am a Lurker but I have the Heart of an ADDICT!!! The rate at which I refresh my screen is proof of that alone.

Time for me to move on. It's on eBay now. Stupid cheap. I really should not be selling this, its too cool. Forgive me! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261115847913&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

This has to go to the "classic threads" section immediately!!!

I think the value this sport gives to our lives at this very moment makes us want to protect very ounce it available . We are all a bit nuts. We are all a lot excited. Let's protect it.

Somebody needs to make a release that is designed in such a way so as not to release completely or should I say, it does not release instantaneously. Let's say the maximum tension a pro skier puts on the rope is somewhere around 800lb (BTW, I have no knowledge of how much they actually put on a rope) Take a ski run, and theoretically put over 800 LBS on the line(because you held onto a slack hit), the release triggers, but simply let's out extra line until the tension on the rope drops to zero. This way, nobody whacks the handle into their temple or ribcage AND if an appendage had been caught within the bridle perhaps the damage could be lessened. I'm willing to believe a good group of engineers could design such a system to accommodate two types of falls. Maybe the rope could have a very fast intial release, (for arm through the handle falls) and then a higher tension/slower "second stage" release (for slack hits and the like). Of course nothing is going to save anyone from an actual broken rope/handle. I realize I am nobody in the slalom world but I really like my idea. I'm not going to stand by it and say its the only way, but I think there has to be a device that takes more human error out of the equation and operates without human intervention... but... Perhaps this release I've described could also have a manual override where an observer in the boat could decide to release the line completely just like tricks. What do you all say? I think there is a lot of room for reasonableness in a new design.

@6balls, I have punched the handle at 36 MPH Over the front, and I KNOW my Fluid Motion Handle guard saved some sort of Arm Appendage from injury. I wear clinchers all the time or my day is not quite the same. I do not notice any obstruction and I never used the "middle thingy" as others have described it (pretty sure that's the technical term anyway) . To answer your question regarding the chances of forcing your arm into the (much smaller) hole that any handle guard would present, I would venture a guess to say less of a chance? A lot less. I think a Needle is hard to thread, much more so at 36mph at 38 off. Change that to a Knitting needle with the same size string and I could imagine that I might be able to thread that by accident in a nasty over the front. Nothing is foolproof. Please buy a handle guard/roll of duct tape. Anything. I've made the rest of my family start skiing with my handle guard. No one has even asked what the thing is much less had it obstruct their grip.

Well, to all who care to read this thread, Obrien came through like A Knight in Shining Armor... On Steroids! With a Gatlyn Gun! I received my replacement ski and will be shipping the busted one back for inspection. Everyone at Obrien was easy to work with and I am so amazed at the level of customer service. Nobody should ever fear buying from this company. Please do, buy from Obrien. Also, a special thanks to Bob Elwell at Obrien for handling this personally, as well as handling the shipping of the old ski back. Further, without BallOfSpray, I probably would not have realized I should contact the manufacturer. This website pulls everything in our waterski world together? So, thanks for all hard the work on here Horton!

@SkiJay, Probably lucky for all that it panned out that way. Where is the GoPro when you need it!

@skijay, How did you handle that situation with the jetski? I'm a pretty calm person, but I think I'd have a real hard time to not fly off the handle.

Horrible, but makes me feel so smart. Is the simple answer a lack of appreciation for what they have?

Constantly with Safari on The IPad.

@Ryno, if that's the case, then I want the Mold!

@Kfennell, I'd like to hope they are going to continue to cater to our market. The Quattro itself seems to be proof that they will. Although, by the same token it seems that one was another designed by Adam Cord and Mapple. I was attracted to the Quattro because there is nothing else out there (correct me if I'm wrong) that is a proven design because of the original Elite, and RTM Contruction, and Thick as a Brick Tip design. It's pretty different, and I would assume that a company that ventures out this far in a design AND even releases the ski to the public would want to stick around a while. Maybe I've just got wishful thinking and should be buying up Elite Quattro skis like there candy.

I have gotten confirmation that Obrien will be replacing my busted Quattro. I have never experienced customer service of this level in anything! I will never be afraid of buying from Obrien EVER, regardless of price. You cannot buy this type of service. Speaking to Obrien as a whole, when you release the Elite Bindings, I WILL buy them. Keep making radical looking skis like the Quattro. Bought a Sixam 2 Point for my wife and she is also having her best season ever!

I'm definitely glad I have a reason to hope. I have sent off pictures of the damage. Just waiting to hear back from them. They had a very promising tone when I did speak with them.