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@Jody_Seal All threads are about Horton

@kindy Of course you are correct. At the tournaments that are L in Houston we usually don't have enough Regulars and Seniors for 5 judge setup.

@klindy Enough judges is the reason we end up with gate video so much!

@Ralph Lee When you add up cameras, cables, computers, tvs, monitors, digital dvrs for three event L tournament it is a lot. This year I bought 4 sets of digital water proof wireless rigs that really, really work and that was $850. Plus I have spares since a lot of this gear is not available at Wal-mart when it rains on it or a 4 wheeler runs over it, etc. For Class C here in Houston all of our courses have been surveyed over and over and are not an issue. For slalom you can put up end course and a TV pretty cheap and you are really close to L -- other than judging gates with video. Who misses gates anyway?

@klindy Back when I called a lot of tricks, I would just watch the pass and then write down what they did. That worked up to about 7K. 11K you need to do some sort of hieroglyphics.

In practice you can help too, if you know what you are doing. Esp at 35 and shorter.

@Ralph Lee Sites that I survey every year I have build survey monuments for them. It takes about 6 or 8 hours to build them the first time and do the survey. Assuming you don't have to move any buoys. Subsequent survey may be from 2 to 4 hours. Jump can take that much or more. Often the jumpers at the site have moved the jump and make it more open or closed, etc. which can turn that job into a day. Setting up all the cameras, recorders is often a another full day. Perhaps you could buy some survey gear ($$$$) and $3000 dollars worth of cameras, and other gear and haul it around from site to site and use up all of your vacation time doing it? Sorry for the snark, but a lot of people in the sport have no idea what all of the tech stuff costs and how hard it is to set up. Some sites are lucky enough to have fairly permanent installations, but if it is a complete set up, it is a lot of work.

@Chad_Scott I've been promo for various companies since 1989, I've never made money. If I can sell my boat for invoice, that is pretty good. I can almost never recover any of my credits for prior year tournament pulls. Now I think we are starting a death spiral with tournaments, since eventually promos will have to get significant cash for hours on their boats and this will be higher entry fees which will reduce participation. I have no interest in keeping boats for 2 or 3 years, the hours and lack of warranty transfer will make that an even harder sell. I can see clubs that have older boats and want to use them that would be good deal. I'm going to be talking with Malibu after the tests on a 2017, but I'll have to be clear on my contract with them. It has been pretty loose in the past, but I've had a great relationship with them since 1998. I know a lot of you know I've been with Malibu for a while and I am not dissing the factory in any way. If you are tournament chairman for tournament next year, you had better find out about boats and their costs next year. I spoke with another promo guy recently and he plans on charging by the hour after 3 hours on the boat at a tournament.

@Edbrazil I was at SR Judges clinic in San Antonio quite awhile back and we looked at lot of TWO and W5F done by trick skiers who were considered pretty clean. In slo-mo the ski gets to about SS position off the wake. These skiers were taking a solid consistent edge to the wake. Skier who don't tend to preturn almost 180 as they leave the wake and often don't get much clearance.

@Edbrazil One of the reasons for full speed is actually wake tricks, what looks like a perfect W5F in slo-mo looks like to much pre-turn.

@Russell I was at SMRR and judged one of her rounds there. Her W7B came up a bit shorter that the vid above. I thought the one posted above was good. I had not ever watched her trick, her toe pass was so clean and fast. Really was glad I was there to see it.

@mad11, Yes thanks for the camera loan. SMRR is working building same rig for next year. Worked flawlessly Jeffy-- I has just read Aquaplex thread when came here to post. After all the beers at your place, wasn't sure where I was.

I'm idiot

At Aquaplex she scored 10,610 twice in L Class tourn. Submitting for Natl Record in case WR is turned down.

@MrJones I seem to remember KLP on the way to the win at the Worlds and is handle broke. Perhaps Ed B or someone can confirm that?

I'm on my third one now. They rip about once a year. Lucky on the last one, still had 4 days on warranty

Kelvin had blow up of frame with her front boot right at the ball, Seemed close at that point. Edge of ski was past center line of ball. Two days there, she ran 39 all four times, I think she got 3@41 twice at least.

That pic looks a lot like Regina at Utopia -- that record app was denied.

My 2016 is finally working, plus a little help from TrentF on gate turn in.

Some 1980 models had the 1.5 to 1 trans wth big prop as I remember. I think the reduced the prop diameter in 1981. I had an 81 and it was a great boat for the time.

@Hugh Nichols Fortunately I was in balmy NJ when that was going on.

@Kelvin Ski Texas froze over in 1989 was down to 7F for a couple of days.

Hoping to see two ball some day. Will see in Wednesday

Will try Rossi's numbers. Some of the other suggestions are close to that too.

Thanks, some guys at my site have run wing at 7. Skidawg sent me some fin suggestions as well.