I've just started skiing again recently and mostly been skiing 15off, up to 34mph. I've taken a few tries at 22 and 28 off. I've been skiing behind a newer Reponse LXI, older American skier, and a 08 MC197 TT. The 197 has a noticeably bigger wake at 15 off, the first time 28 off 34 on the MC hurt me pretty bad, I crashed as a result of the wake - the hardness of the wake really surprised me. I hadn't really noticed the wake on the other boats. I was a MC promo member in the late 80's early 90s, I remember those boats having pretty nice wakes. For what these new boats cost I'd have to say I expect more of them.