E_T Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 In T-1:45 min. Release is scheduled for 12:00 EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 maybe they will finally catch up....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cool. An "in transit" spy shot. I like it. The trailer looks sufficient to carry it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Come on, take it all off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 7, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted August 7, 2013 @MrJones I think that beast of a trailer may be what is making the boat look small. Until somebody tells me the beam is 91" or under, I am unwilling to assume anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I love how they put these ski boats on a double axel trailer and then upcharge an extra $5K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @skibug They did tow it from Tennessee to Canada... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 new pictures on FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LakeOneSkier Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's a mini-pickle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 they just posted the pic on the faceboko page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 It does have a tiny pickle fork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerR Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 God I want one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's here! I have to say. I don't like that pickle fork though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 there is a new picture up as well. closed or open bow. A hard cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 FYI, on the other boats like the 214 and 214v, that is an optional windshield. The standard windshield is also available. I would expect the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 Well, outside the box they went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller estrom Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 No side panel/tapering of the windshield is interesting. Not sure if it's good or bad, just interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 That hard cover is sweeeeet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I love the no-tapering windshield! More 196ish, where you can easily access things outside the boat, or get some breeze on your hand:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Love it....nice bimini too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jwr Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I was more impressed with the flat screen tv mounted on the windshield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 That windshield makes it much easier for the boat timer to hang over the side of the boat with his stopwatch . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Gunnel ski racks. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 No analog style gauges at all... mini pickle fork... im trying really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 @kelvin that is the barefoot windshield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I really like that boat. Noticed they went with a hybrid gauge approach with a few analogue gauges down below the throttle in addition to the screen. Did I already say I want one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 It's been really, really interesting hearing from the people working on this boat(as well as MC's other redesigns) and what they went through. From the different iterations of test hulls that Marcus and Will Bush were working on, hearing about going back to the dock to get life jackets when testing cause it was such a crazy ride, to casting longer tracking fins and rudder so they could test one hull, etc. MC sent an engineer to a boat show here and he and I went around to all sorts of manufacturers pretending to be buyers looking at how other high end boat builders(not just ski and wakeboard boat builders)did their ergonomics. Marcus pretty much gave up 2 years of his ski career for today's debut. The new Pro Star has been a long time coming. And considering that the head of product development told us 18 months ago that the boat wasn't coming out until it was a game changer, I expect the wait will have been worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I just don't see anything to me that says "game changer". Maybe I need to see one in person, drive it and ski it. The SN200 was nearest to a "game changer" there has been in a while; it forced everyone else to catch up and redesign. It seems Malibu did it in about 1 year (i don't have any facts on this time frame but it is just my perception as they might have been designing the TXi well before 2010). Can someone in the "know" elaborate on what we should be looking at or for interms of any type of step change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 @ShaneH did anyone from MC tell you why the pickle fork? From the pics, it's so small it does look to add any room to the bow and it doesn't look like it has any provisions for a ladder like the PF X boats have. I would much prefer the pointed bow like they did with the X10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I will be ordering mine this fall. If anyone is interested in the best maintained 2005 MC 197 TT with DBW and zbox, send me a message. 1200 hours now. Haven't thought about price yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 In terms of step change, my understanding is that MC and the entire team is confident that the slalom wakes are meaningfully better than the SN. That was the target in terms of raising the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Ok, I understand that. They had the SN200 and the CP to compare wakes, but why the PF nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Short of abscent a wake; I am not sure how you make it better than the 200 or TXI. The biggest improvements to be made would all be at longer line lengths and slower speeds. Maybe that is where the biggest difference is with the new MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Similar or better wake with better fuel consumption would certainly make for a nice advantage. Improvement in slow speed maneuverability would be a bonus. You can always improve. I like the TXi a lot, and the TXi was certainly an improvement over the LXi, but not the same kind of complete overhaul we are seeing here with the MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @skibug Were you look for a plaque or banner that read Game Changer? ;) Game changer as far as performance, is what they indicated to us over the product development cycle. They set their goals on bettering the 200 performance. The TXI was a very minor revision over the LXI hull. Less than 3/16" difference between the two hulls in one spot so it was very easy for Malibu to make that change. The Prostar is an all new boat. The pickle fork nose allows a slightly wider bow ahead of the windshield giving you a deeper gunnel in front. You then have more options in design when creating storage and seating. Also, the wider your front is at the rub rail, the shallower your keel v, or deadrise, will be. A shallow forehull deadrise helps with producing a flatter wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buski Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 @ShaneH what/where did they actually change for the TXi? I knew it was small but don't think I ever saw the details anywhere. This is probably a stupid question but if it's that small is there something that could be done to the existing LXi hulls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 The FB page says 5" longer and 5" wider, 400lbs lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Still just not digging that PF nose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller EricW Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 The removable tonno cover on the bow will soon be a new craze in water toys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 A game changer would be a boat that still provides the killer three event wake of the 190/197 but optimizes long line, slow speed slalom wakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 20 foot length, 96 inch beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 The hard bow cover is nice when it's on. A game changer it isn't had a friend who one on an open bow 20' Charger SV twenty years ago. It sucks if you want to take it off on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @skibug, how you make it better than a 200? By making the wake similar, but the boat smaller and cheaper. I am a Nautique fan, but a similar wake, and a cheaper price and smaller size would have me buying one as my next boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Best looking slalom tug on the water in my opinion - still love the 200, but the styling queues here are pure MC; and true to form they are a bit more bold and in your face than the others, but not overstated. Can't wait for the ride behind review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 The only thing I hope is that they do not put a high price tag on it. If so, we will have the same thing that happened with slalom skis. Nautique will raise the price of the 200, and we will be paying more for the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @ral They told us they were targeting their existing price point, which puts it between the TXI and the 200 as the 197 is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @razorskier1 contact Barrett his father in law may be interested in your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 Wonder if the pf helps with the fitting of the hardshell bow cover. Maybe that makes that design easier to incorporate. Really like that cover. The quick shot of the hull in the rear sure did look off the charts different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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