Baller RAWSki Posted October 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2015 REALLY Nice boats @Ryno and @VONMAN!.....The Barefoot warrior is a true classic and I always thought that Malibu Flightcraft - Barefooter was the best looking boat out there. I would think many Ballers have soft spots for outboards and the old Mercs, 'Rudes' and Johnsons since most of us learned to ski behind them when we were kids. Except probably @Horton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller VONMAN Posted October 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2015 I just ordered a new Mercury 200 Opt Max Pro XS for the old girl. Can't wait to try it out. Hull is carbon fiber (they were ahead of their time) and used to top out at 60mph with a land and sea torque shift prop and hydraulic jack plate. Like I said a blast from the past. Ernie Schlager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted October 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2015 @vonman that's a riot I have a land and sea hydraulic jack on the Falcon Barefoot and went through a couple of torque shift props. Came out of the hole at 13 pitch and shifted out to a 26 if I recall. Fantastic hole shot, acceleration and top end. Got rid of it after having blades decide to separate from the hub on a few occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Good engine choice @VONMAN, you're going to love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller XR6Hurricane Posted October 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted October 29, 2015 @6balls Only thing I worry about with stepping on the cavitation plate is if their foot slips off. I'm comfortable doing it, but it's amazing how non-agile some skiers can be. That does get me to thinking though, we always used to board our friend's tri-hull by stepping on the ski bridle rope and it worked pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihrdskir Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Our current ride is an 01 Stejcraft Pro-skier. A real popular choice in the day and currently the one for us. I have a few boats over the years and I always liked the space inside and low weight of the boats. It was always a pain in the derrier getting in and out. This boat however solved the problems. It's doing the job just nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 When I was in Jr High, I bought a 15' Starcraft, all aluminum boat, with a 33 HP Evinrude. Next season upgraded to a 50 Merc. Some of my best memories as a kid skiing with my buddies on the river. Chuck Sterns Wood slalom and ski belts. Had to drop a ski with the Evinrude for sure, could start on slalom with the Merc, but took a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 That boarding platform solution is genius. Any closer more detailed pics of how this works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dihrdskir Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 @Dacon62 I agree. They were really popular and work well. The pods either side of the engine are moulded. The centre section has a hinge pivot on the transom, two gas struts back to the transom on either side and the inner hoop, for want of a better term, is teflon lined. Basically when trimmed down the centre section drops into the two pods and sits flush on a ledge and comes up when the motor is trimmed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 Everytime I see a picture of a Stejcraft I'm impressed. Those are some beautiful boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 Someone needs to start building boats like that in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted November 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted November 2, 2015 Check out the cool grab rails that come off the rope guide over the motor, and the twin rear storage compartments. Neat boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 We had a 19' Crosby with 2 Mercs on the back (135's I think). Was a big favorite for most at the tourneys of the time. That was in the mid 60's. Wake was very small at jumping and slalom speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted December 2, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted December 2, 2015 @andjules If I saw a used boat in good shape like those in your pictures, I'd buy it in a heart beat. Awesome boats. The only drawback is early summer twilight skiing. And taking a june bug in the forehead! I learned to ski behind a 13 foot Boston Whaler with a 30 hp Johnson. I don't think that baby would get me out of the water today but in its time, the Whaler had the best ski wake. Then the tri hull boats came along and they were even better. Mind you, we weren't yet tournament skiers- just a bunch of kids with $2 for a days worth of ski gas. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Wow, best forum I've seen on water skiing. Thanks to all who contributed, I learned a ton. Just bought a 94 Procraft 20' with the Merc 2.5 xri efi, 200 hp. It has a 3-blade, 14-1/4 x 24 stainless prop on it. Runs great, but crazy slow pulling this 225 lb. man, 25 lbs. of beer belly ballast mind you, out of the water. It'll do 65 mph easily with 2 people my size in it. Thinking about switching to a 4-blade, 14x23 Solas Amita aluminum prop, goal being better hole shot. Don't care about top speed. Not positive I'm gonna keep the thing so not wanting to plow a bunch of $$ into a prop. I'm sorry, but I do not currently know the WOT RPM. Any thoughts/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z375/melvinqjones/IMG_0491.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ski_Dad Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 Sweet boat! How slow of a pull out ? I'd probably drop down to a 19 or 21 pitch and just watch the tach. Of course not really a issue if you keep it under 50. Save the other prop for cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 @Miles 24 pitch is too steep for that type of hull and a heavier skier. We ran a 21 pitch on a Concord Mach 1 which was both lighter and shallower than that hull and it was a 65 MPH boat with a 3-blade. I put a 5-blade 21P on it before we got our Malibu and the damn thing would literally jump out of the water when you hammered it. Would pull out 3 slalom skiers with little fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Tried to edit my comment.... trying to figure out how to insert a picture without using photobucket... lost the whole thing. Thanks for previous comments. So, starting over: My boat is a '94 Procraft 20', 200 Merc XRI with a 14-1/4 x 24, 3-blade stainless prop on her. Looking for a better hole shot and not worried about top speed. Right now she does 65mph easily. Should I drop to a 21p? 19p? 4- or 5- blade? Your input will be appreciated, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 @miles I run a 19 3-blade on my ski centurion falcon barefoot with a 225 3.1 liter EFI Yamaha. Hole shot is WICKED...in fact to 55-60 is wicked if you dump the throttle from still and simultaneously come up on trim. It will run 70 with a 26 pitch but hole shot sucks with that prop. The 19 is a great combo for my boat. Blistering hole shot, still pretty good top end. I think I could get away with a 21 as well and have a little less hole shot and a little more top end. At the time we put the 19 on we were pulling big barefoot lines etc (like 6, 200 lb dudes). With the 19 it will pull your cabin into the lake. I didn't like the 5 blade...ok for skiing but not for trim up top end at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MuskokaKy Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 @dihrdskir sweet boat! she looks mint!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 @6balls @Miles that was my experience with the 5 blade as well. It didn't like being run near the surface and would lose hold to keep the hull up and out of the water for high speed running. The 21P LazerII was the perfect prop for that boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregHind Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 The 200 xri merc is a small block motor whereas the 225 ox66 yam is a big block. A 19" pitch will be more ideal as a ski prop for the xri. It will turn a 21 which will be a good compromise of ski ability, holeshot and top speed but probably not be the best it can be for skiing The laser ii prop is from the 80's and there are lots better out now. Basically anything in the current catalogue The high 5 prop will be the best barefoot wash your boat can make. Very nice to slalom behind. Quick out of the hole. A bit weak in reverse (use some extra revs) and slower up top. A nice modern 19 or 21 pitch 3 blade stainless should make you happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 30, 2017 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2017 @greghind good point the 225 Yam big block is a torque monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I decide this year to restore the family boat that my dad purchase in 1989. I'm from Canada, Quebec (poor english) . The boat is a 1987 16' Cadorette Ski Master 160. Everything is rot in the hull. I don't have the place to work on it so I decide to go professionally. When i see the price of new boats... I decide to go that way.. The boat have a 1986 Evinrude V4 120. The boat will have a 2017 Evinrude G1 135 HO with a power steering. The boat will be done for spring this year. I made a album for the project on Google Photos: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPwPnUQCIr5GhxCa1-iE-XgiybHXTdJQfWHBPwP6NaBynRSntvok8jFfzP5Wbc7gg?key=THRMRTIzMUdIOTZZUEZTY0FSVlJpakNJNTlFVG5R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 B) B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 5, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2018 Great work! Keep the photos coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ryans1418 Posted February 5, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 5, 2018 Used to ski behind a 23-foot Cobalt 232. Just got a 2013 Mastercraft X14V last year . I don't know how I skied behind that Cobalt (or how it managed to get to 36 mph). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 New progress pics at the end of the google album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 15, 2018 Great progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 The boat will be way more strong than new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted February 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2018 Doesn't anyone else besides @GAJ0004 recall skiing a Hydrodyne tournament outboard? Those things have small wake and SO soft you barely feel it. Almost scary. Ugly boats, but great old performers that owned the tournament market i 70's and 80's before anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted February 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2018 @MDB1056 I vaguely remember skiing behind a Hydrodyne sometime in the late 70s. My only reference back then would have been the Canadian JCraft outboards that I posted on the first page of this thread. I recall the Hydrodyne having a better (bigger) trick wake, a little bigger slalom wake (vs JCrafs; but smaller than inboards of the time, at least at 28-30mph). And yes, they were ugly! Still popular in the showskiing world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted February 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2018 The Hydrodyne lives on in the Dyna-Ski boats. I have also been behind a Barefoot Sanger outboard. Good wake for slalom, but designed for barefooting first. It was like a rocket with a 200 Yamaha.(1991). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2018 I loved and owned two Hydrodynes. My first was a 17'6" 1973 IO powered by a Mercruiser Ford 305 V8. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think they looked lean and mean! Slalom wakes were good as were the trick wakes. The tracking was interesting as the rounded back of the boat allowed it to roll up on each side. Tournament wakes behind the twin outboard hardly existed, My second was a 93 Comp. Would ski and drive that one anytime! Tracking was phenomenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted February 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 A lot of progress check out the album,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brewski Posted March 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted March 13, 2018 My Sanger Skis great. Not a Nautique or Master Craft but flat and smooth. Barefoot is OUT OF THIS WORLD~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted March 13, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted March 13, 2018 @Brewski I sometimes get a chance in Southern Canada (MN) to ski and barefoot behind one of those. You are correct on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 13, 2018 Baller Share Posted March 13, 2018 @brewski wake so flat that if you have never been behind one you question your visual acuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Still loving my Barefooter, she even received a 2013 Mercury ProXS as a Christmas present. Here she is all dressed up on Australia day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Here were im in the project Cadorette Rigging on Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted April 8, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 8, 2018 Awesome!!! The boat and the 135HO look great. Nice job @lmt383 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Thanks a lot of time and research and you know what... money ;) its a love project for my familly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted April 8, 2018 Baller Share Posted April 8, 2018 Beau projet! Félicitations! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted November 16, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 16, 2019 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregHind Posted November 17, 2019 Baller Share Posted November 17, 2019 @lmt383 tell us more. What is the wake like? How much fun has your family had with it? What is the coolest time of fun you’ve had with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullyman Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 ryno, could you post some pics of you perfectpass install on the merc...want to do one, and would rather not "break trail" any tips would be appreciated thanks! mullyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmt383 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 The wake have not change with the new engine and is ok for me. The power is incredible it track better with this engine. You can throw the hull out of the water with a little trim. I learn to ski behind this boat. The boat stay at the lake most of is time but last year we took it on a river and ride a couple of hours it was awsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Skier Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I have a 93 Ski Brendella Barefooter with a 225 Suzuki. Skis Great. I installed Perfect pass 2 years ago. There was not enough room under the motor hood for the servo so I had to do a remote mount. I had to try a couple different springs till i found one that worked well. I also built the linkage so it can extend to fine tune the spring rate. Servo and linkage mounted behind the back seat The cable from the linkage to the motor is only about 4ft. And a pic of the whole boat Brother in law and Father in law also have outboards. The middle one is a 1970 something Cougar with a 200 Merc and the one on the right is a 1970 something Swiftsure with a 120 Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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