Baller dchristman Posted March 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2015 It's finally spring and the discussion of hand position has resurfaced again - I assume in anticipation of a fresh start for the new year. I switched to the "correct" grip last year after 30-some years because of reading the discussions here. It has absolutely been a positive change for me. I thought a poll that shows a clear correlation with improvement would be useful for those contemplating the switch to know if it's worth the effort. I will define "correct" to be as in the other current thread on this topic - RFF:left palm up, LFF: right palm up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted March 30, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted March 30, 2015 it's all about doing whatever you can to improve your "off" side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Onside135 Posted March 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2015 Early in my course skiing career someone recommended I switch. It seemed awkward at first, and I even used to get up with the wrong grip and then switch when out of the water. It didn't take too long to get used to, and I'm glad I made the switch. Would I have progressed to skiing better and shorter ropes with the "wrong grip"…who knows? It doesn't seem to have hindered Jeff Rodgers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted March 30, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted March 30, 2015 I have tried switching my grip (from correct to incorrect) to take stress off my elbow. Switching is fine if I run the course slow and long and can two hand it, but if I have to let go with one hand while skiing switch, its like skipping, patting myself on the head, rubbing my belly and chewing gum, all at the same time. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted March 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2015 Poll needs another option - "I use the "wrong" hand position, tried switching, couldn't do it". I've tried switching to the "correct" grip 3 different times, couldn't get comfortable with it and could really care less. "Wrong" works for me just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted March 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted March 30, 2015 I made the switch several years ago and oddly for me it was harder than I thought. I've heard others say it's no big deal. I have a neighbor who switches anytime his tendinitis flares up and he skis the same both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoProblem Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Chalk up another wrong. I hate skiing with the correct grip. I am RFF/RPU. I do a lot stuff weird though. I skateboard Mongo Regular which means I am left foot forward but I also push with that foot meaning my back foot never comes off the board. I wakesurf Regular but I spent the early years riding backside meaning with my back to the wake. It's something you almost never see. I can now ride either side equaly and its something that is coming in handy now that the dual wake era is at hand. But that's top secret. >:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyokes Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Once I finally get back on the water this spring I plan to give the switch a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWiedmer Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 My Dad taught me well, don't think I could ever change. Palm up on the "off" side means everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DmaxJC_ski Posted April 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'm RFF and RPU, couldn't change that I don't think, I never really thought that it could make a difference. Well my day isn't wasted now I lean red something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DmaxJC_ski Posted April 2, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 2, 2015 *learned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonskier Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Just to spice this up a little. I have always used the correct hand position but onmy deep water starts, the line is on the incorrect side! Ie I'm LFF, and the rope is on the left of the ski! I had never noticed till some smart Alec pointed it out. Tried switching but can't get up - ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt2003 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 CRAP! I didn't even know I was doing wrong until now! Guess there's another change to be made this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted June 5, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 5, 2016 For the 11% (as of 6/4/16) who haven't tried switching, give it a try. A couple I ski with wouldn't listen to me, but went to Coble's a few weeks ago and April convinced them to give it a try. They are happy with the improvement on their offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 5, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2016 @dchristman I think April skis with the wrong grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted June 5, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 5, 2016 @chef23 I believe you are correct - but she recommended trying to switch just the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted June 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2016 Wow... I have been doing it wrong for 34 years and never knew. This made me think about how you swing a baseball bat, LFF / RPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chris55 Posted June 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2016 I am RFF and when I started slaloming the coach-driver told me to switch my grip. So weird at the beginning but improved my off side for sure. And my right elbow started to hurt because of bending it meaning I have a wrong position with my right arm.....and I have to straight my arm and i will not hurt anymore.....we will see. But definitly worth the try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt2003 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I started out 30 years ago with wrong hand position. I used to try to remember to switch after I got up but it was just another thing to remember. This year I started out with the correct hand position. It allows me to have straighter arms, closer to my body. It wasn't nearly as difficult as I thought it would be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller foxriverat Posted June 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2016 I skied with wrong hand position for many years until I found out from BOS I was doing it wrong. Made the change a few years ago. Took about a month to feel natural. I also get up with both palms down to save my elbow tendons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ColeGiacopuzzi Posted June 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2016 Best thing I ever did, Nick parsons told me to switch a couple of years ago and why it would help, dramatically improved my offside!! Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller h2onhk Posted June 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2016 Just started playing around with hand position this year after reading several articles here. Haven't had enough time in the course yet to know if it helped or hurt so the jury is still out. Off-side turn definitely feels more solid. One thing i did notice is that my forearms get fatigued more quickly when switching to the "correct" grip after many years doing it "wrong". Top forearm and bottom forearm muscles seem to work differently when grip is switched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GAJ0004 Posted June 7, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2016 I am left foot forward with right palm up. I have had many skier tell me over the years my on and offside turns are very symmetrical. Not sure if that is considered wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted June 7, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted June 7, 2016 @GAJ0004 you are "correct" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bookm_dano Posted June 8, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2016 KLP: "How long have you been holding your hands like that?" Me: " Uh, I don't know. 40 years I guess." KLP: "Might be a good time to switch" He was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted January 22, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 for @swbca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 503Kento Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 I switched to incorrect grip for a while to help my elbow pain. It was ok but never fully felt right. Get high, Get fast, and do some good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MDB1056 Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 LFF. Only reason I switched to a reverse grip was it immediately cured my ® elbow pain. No pain immediately made it an easy choice.That was 3 yrs ago. Never looked back. Jeff Rodgers is my hero.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dysco Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 A few years ago I started deadlifting (which completely cured all of my nagging back issues). I naturally grip the bar (in a switch grip situation) with left palm down, and I'm a left foot forward skier. That summer I realized that my best power and "stacking" in a deadlift came with that grip, so I switched it. It certainly has aided my offside pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 I’ve also been using both palms down for deep water starts for many years now. Just feels more stable and a little less stress on the body. I switch to the correct baseball bat grip as soon as I’m up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ swbca Posted January 22, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted January 22, 2021 I have been wrong since 1959. I know switching will help but I don't think I will be able to get up with a deep water start with both feet in . . . I guess I will switch after I'm up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodecon Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 I learned with the "wrong" grip and when I switched i could not get out of the water with the correct grip, so I switch the grip after I am up. I don't even have to think about it now, it just comes naturally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ETskier Posted January 22, 2021 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2021 I tried switching to correct. Better offside pull, but lost my good on side pull. Also hurt my elbows. Switched back after 3 sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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