Baller ktm300 Posted August 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2015 I would like to hear about this ski from any 34.2 skiers that are skiing on the 67" and who aren't getting free or discounted skis from Radar. No affiliation. Is it balanced on both sides? Another NASCAR ski? Stiff as an I beam? Soft? Just right on the flex? Would love it if... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller robb Posted August 15, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2015 @ Chris Rossi thanks I'm currently on a 67 orange strada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 35 off has always been a beast for me until i started riding the 2016 Vapor. Never have i had a ski so good on my offside 135!!!! More to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Nice vid... just squeezed around 6! I'm torn - I'd love to try the new Vapor but my Sans Rival is too pretty to sit on a shelf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted August 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2015 @markchilcutt you're making that pass because your pullout height on the boat is awesome. Way to set the table there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yeah @scotchipman! The new ski is lagit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted August 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2015 @MattP that's fantastic. I've had extensive chats with @brooks about the 2016 ski. And a little bit with @Chris Rossi too. I'm super pumped to get mine. I too have loved my green vapor. But this new one has me like a kid at Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2015 @Colebrah can't wait to get on either I might add. I think he might have tried to sneak one out of the PerfSki booth while I was distracting Bill & Sully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ColeGiacopuzzi Posted August 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hahah yes very true, this is an exciting shape that I have heard nothing but good things about! I'm stoked to jump on it, It's gonna take people places! @MattP Radar Skis Follow Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 16, 2015 @Colebrah no you sleep Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 @scotchipman that is the 2016 ski with 2015 graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 What color are the new Vapor bindings? There must be a picture out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 19, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2015 @eddie_roberts_jr ? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 Orange/ Black, with a little bit of a carbon fiber look. They match the new ski. Brooks had them at Nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 @skierjp - Is Brooks using the new boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 Still in Honeymoon phase and not quite set up perfect yet, but Best Ski Ever. If you are in M4 for 2016 and M5 for 2017 on do not buy this ski, do not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted August 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2015 The only change from last year is the color and the lower lace which utilizes the Boa system similar to the system on the Boa gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 Would really like to hear from those skiing on this about what is working for you setting wise. I rode it for first time last night with Rossi settings. Really nice feel to the ski. Smooth. Really solid and confidence inspiring through the wakes. Definitely turns on both sides. I will need to ride it some more to learn what it likes in the turns. The ability to hit my pull out mark (width and height) was nearly automatic. It also allowed me to maintain my position before the turn in very easily (Did not want to turn or suck back in until I was ready to go). Felt very balanced and at ease before turn in. Transition from pull out to glide really solid and smooth. Good stuff. As to settings, only made one adjustment. 6.950 to 6.960. Was getting a lot of tip rise onside with the former. None with the latter. At 6.960 getting some alternating tip bite/rise offside (not too bad but some)... will split the difference and try 6.955. Anybody try the Rini #s? Compared to Rossi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 Brooks set mine up at Nationals: 6.960, 2.460, .733, 29.5 (One hole back from the middle hole on the Sequence plate where I was in the middle hole on the Green Vapor). I like it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 First ride last night. Stock settings. Confidence inspiring and everything else @ktm300 said. Very much a tip down attitude, no wheelies. Had a blast riding it, if I did not own it, I would have stolen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 @BlueSki - those are not the settings they were using at Nationals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 Hmmmm. These are what was emailed to me from Performance. I am curious what the other settings are. @Roger, what size are you skiing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 See my post above yours for the 67. Don't know what the others are and don't know that what you got may work great either, just getting started with the 2016 model. I know the numbers for the Green Vapor changed several times before they stabilized. On the green one, there were Rossi's numbers, Rini's numbers, and "other" numbers thrown around for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yep. Should have stated size and #s 67 29.5 17.75 2.462, .733 (regular not slot)( I get .740 slot) 6.960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BlueSki Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 @Roger I remember the variations for the green, it was fun trying them. I am on a 67 too. Bill at Performance set my fin to the numbers in the pic I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think this was discussed in another thread, but it's interesting that "long and shallow" is kind of a trend now. I bet the surface area is about the same as the traditional 2.500 and 6.840 fins. Goode was the first long shallow fin I remember, now they run more traditional numbers. Likely which ever feels good to the individual skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted August 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 21, 2015 One of the really nice things about this ski is that it is not super sensitive to change. The settings that I'm using right now are: My personal settings Boots - 65 28.5", 66 29", 67 29.5", 68 30" Fin - 2.465, 6.940, 0.733 9 degrees I have also been setting 34 mph short line skiers at the numbers below with lots of personal bests posted and is where I set skis at for nationals: Boots - same as my boot recommended location above Alternate fin setting - 2.460, 6.960, 0.735 9 degrees Matt is running boots more forward with a shallower/longer fin with those settings being shown in the picture a few posts up. He has had success with his numbers as I have had with mine. Try them all and see what works best for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 @skierjp @JC McCavit sighting of Brooks new interesting setup in alberta a couple weeks ago. New bindings are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 And here's the close up with the boa on the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 Who's the 3 footed skier and does that help his offside turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 Brooks' offside is amazing on the 2016 Vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 @schafer -not to put too fine a point on it but very few skiers have a binding for their middle leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted August 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 22, 2015 Those vapor bindings are going to look great on my orange prophecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 24, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted August 24, 2015 ran my first 38 on the new 66" ski at the Hilltop Record this past weekend, felt killer to get it right, fin was at 2.445" 6.935" .740" wing down/9', front Vapor boot at 28 7/8", now I just need to start getting somewhere at -39.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted August 24, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2015 Had you moved the boot farther back than recommended or started at under 29"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 24, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted August 24, 2015 @unksskis my boots are on the Radar Sequence plate, that measurement is with the plate one hole back from center, I used to have my boots jammed together, but they are now about 1/4" apart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Milford Posted August 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2015 I ran a really nice 39 at the Sunten Lakes tournament in Utah on the new 68 Vapor this weekend. Bindings at 30" measured from the heal of front boot 6.960 2.462 .735 9 degrees I am going to make small adjustment and go to: 6.953 2.465 .735 9 degrees Hopefully those are the magic numbers for me to get through that pass more consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gginco Posted August 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2015 What's up with the mutiny of once loyal Goode soldiers in UT? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gginco Posted August 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2015 @scotchipman Maybe you're not at liberty to say but is it a case of Nick getting a better sponsorship deal or a case of liking the Vapor more? Nick was part of the Flextail R&D wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rawly Posted August 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2015 Let's hear about buoy count ! Are they going up ? Lots of blue vapors on ski it again. Guessing most are switching to the new one. Not sure if I should part with my blue one. Probably will , ran more 35's on the green one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Excellent question @Rawly. I love my blue vapor and I'm intrigued by the new ski and hype but I really like my current ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'm sticking with the blue ski for now. I'll wait until spring to make a change if any. @ToddL is on a green and seriously considering a 16. I'll see what he thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted August 28, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2015 All gone quite, any video of the ski from the boat, or video of other skiers on the new Vapour ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted August 30, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2015 First tourney post nats on the '16 for me this weekend (perfect conditions at Cottonwood). First round Saturday-meh not great, checked fin settings and who woulda figured- not stock anymore-one of the kidos musta dropped it (fin was short and shallow). I put it back on stock Rosco numbers and next set worked out the bugs and ran a descent 39- ended up with 3@41 on Saturday for top score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Way to go @skidawg!!! All i can say is since getting on the 16 i havent driven away from the lake without running at least one of my 35 off passes tried! This was not the case on my previous ski. Confidence is really high on the 16!! Offside has never been this good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Three tourney rounds Sunday on the '16- 2@41, 1.5@41 & 4@41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Crushing buoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 31, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 31, 2015 @skidawg Boom! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 @skidawg are you on a 67 or 68? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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