Baller JAG Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 I need a new handle as my older InTow is worn out. It's a straight 1.00" dia. but I've been thinking of going with a bent handle. The 1.00" dia. always felt too thin and I'm thinking I'd like something a little thicker too, but I've not been able to try one. What would I gain with a bent handle, with a slightly larger diameter? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted February 21, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted February 21, 2017 @rpg : for me it reduces or eliminates tendonitis. Can't help on bigger diameter, I like the small diameter bar & an elliptical shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billb Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Size and straight/bent is totally personal preference. But Brenda's merchandise is top notch. Get the crossbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Larger diameter is a winner. Easier on hands and forearms. Can't comment on bent handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Call Masterline. You can get bent at multi diameters customs. Many colors to choose from. You won't be disappointed. I would no go anywhere else. Top notch service and all products made in USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 I use 1.06 diameter (bent) from InTow. Call Brenda as she can make any diameter, within reason. The bent handle helped elieviate some elbow issues I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted February 21, 2017 Baller_ Share Posted February 21, 2017 I've used the bent handle for years. It really helps reduce elbow issues and is very easy to get use to. Handle diameter is mostly personal preference. I use the 1.0" Brenda's products and service are top notch. Give her a call and she can recommend options. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Agreed on the bigger size being easier on the arms. Brenda is awesome to work with and very responsive to your needs and requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JAG Posted February 21, 2017 Author Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Thank y'all for your input. The season is fast approaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 My ski partner just bought a Masterline Carbon Custom 13 1.092. The only thing I don't like is, now I'm out $129 because I have to buy one. Without question, the best handle I've ever used. Smaller diameter handles eat my hands up. Seems they roll around in my hands more. It becomes more than a discomfort issue when the water gets warm 80-85+. At those temps, I rip pieces of my hand off. Bigger diameter helped that immensely. Straight vs bent is preference. I don't like bent, but people say it helps with tendonitis, which is a pretty big plus. I just don't like them. HO Syndicate makes a nice 1.062 that I've got zero complaints with as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Brenda does a nice job with the ARS (anti roll) stringing too. I love mine, feels very solid. I also have the safety bar. Great products at InTow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 21, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 21, 2017 Advertisers here: Centurion Boats, Connelly, DBSkis , Goode , HO Syndicate, Mapple , Masterline, O'Brien, Perfomance Ski and Surf, PTM Edge, Reflex, Rosewater, Radar, Great Lakes, Wakeye, Stokes Support them, they support our sport...and without a doubt Masterline supports our sport exponentially compared to In-Tow...Not trashing them but Masterline deserves our dollars (along with those relevant advertisers)...They do more for our sport in R&D, sponsorship and support locally, nationally and internationally than In-Tow ever has or ever will...Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbski Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 especially DBski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterSkier12 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 We will always use In Tow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 22, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 22, 2017 @jayski I cannot express how much I appreciate your post. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @jayski Yoiur a bit off the mark with your last comment. Cool, point out and support the advertisers who support this site. To take a shot at a quality ski industry company is uncalled for. In-tow is innovative, and man its ropes. Not a whole lot to innovate there. Her crossbar is a great offer and really works. Beautifully done spectra handles. That neat tie off at the loops Masterline now uses also on its top ropes. She is always looking to improve the product. In-tow is pretty much a one-woman shop and will make a rope any way you want, half loops, additional loops, only to -28 and the like. With great care and great accuracy. Every rope is to order so you won't see her products at your local ski shop. But you will find them on the docks across the country and the world. As a small operation pretty sure she has no budget for advertising. Her product does her advertising for her. BTW, you getting off your WONE and on a Radar, Connelly, DBSkis, Goode, HO Syndicate, Mapple, or O'Brien any time soon? When it comes to support for competitive skiing with sponsorship and innovation over the years gotta give it to Goode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 22, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 22, 2017 @bry i would be happy to invoice you for the free promotion you are giving Brenda. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 Triple panda for @Horton and @jayski for dogging on Brenda. Think it is personal preference, don't you? In-tow is pretty awesome.....my .02;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 22, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 22, 2017 @bigskieridaho No Brenda builds a good product but Russell builds the industry standard product and supports this web site. I do not mind skiers saying they like Brenda's products but there is a limit. BallOfSpray is a business that is supported by advertisers who wish to market to the Ballers. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MickeyThompson Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @BRY what is a WONE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @scotchipman Masterline does offer a handle guard handle and spectra rope. The spectra is a coated spectra where in tow is not coated leaving the fibers exposed. Just call Randy and ask for it. It's more then just a price of rope across the V. here is a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 . All innovative ropes and handle configurations seem to come from Masterline. I not not seen in tow bring something new and innovative to the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bigskieridaho Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @Horton Roger that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BRY Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @dave2ball Well if you haven't seen you haven't been watching... I stand by my initial post. "Cool, point out and support the advertisers who support this site. To take a shot at a quality ski industry company is uncalled for." It is possible to support something or someone without having to tear down or denigrate it's opposition. Masterline does many good things for the industry and makes great products both of which can and should be touted. Knocking on In-tow, particularly when incorrect, is not necessary to do so. @Horton Sorry you feel my post was over the limit. Was just meant to be a direct rebuttal to a post I believe to be incorrect with a few points to show why incorrect. Open debate and discussion usually supported on this site. No worries, your site, your rules. @MickeyThompson I'd tell you but they are not an advertiser, already in the doghouse. Do a BOS forum search on WONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 That handle guard looks like it would protect a head well and maybe catch an arm. It's a risky sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 While In Tow may not be a BOS supporter, she does support the industry. As for innovative, didn't she create the knot-less rope/loops that was copied by some years later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @ALPJr if you are referring to the picture I posted yes it does prevent the head going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @BRY Masterline has had knot less ropes for many years before they hit the market as a normal production item. Until it was produced to Masterline standards they were not going to release it to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @BRY if you feel I was "taking a shot" you were grossly misinterpreting what I wrote. I suggest investigating further into the facts in regards to both companies "support" of our sport. I will stand by my statement that Masterline is a exponentially grandeur supporter than In-Tow. Facts easily prove such... In regards to the personal "shot" of what ski I ride and my support, I currently have 2 O'Brien G5's, an HO V-Type, a Goode XT, the Wone, a Warp, a new HO V-Type X on the way, using a HO syndicate hardshell with a Reflex R_style rear, shop at Performance, have 4 Masterline ropes and at least 4 handles, half dozen Masterline gloves, a PTM mirror on my boat, I don't ride a Mapple but I do frequent LaPoints ski park so I indirectly support them and the Wakeye XTG with the Wakeye app!! (FYI nothing is more than 2 seasons old and....I have a spending issue is there a support group, my wife might appreciate it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 Hmmmm....... I like In-Tow because of the mini loops and free extra training loop and I like to support small businesses having been one myself. But I also respect Masterline's quality and marketing support within the industry and on BOS. I am actually am ordering a In-Tow rope AND ML handle this week. So BOS isn't a 'free and open forum' ???.....there is a DJT/Russia/Media joke in here somewhere. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 I use only InTow ropes because I like to get a couple of extra loops in my rope. Something you CANNOT do with Masterline. Its also kinda cool to be able to chose the color you want in the rope section going out to the handle. And I love the knotless design that Brenda was the first to come out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 I like to support advertisers on this site, and do frequently. The first criteria for me though is whether the product being offered is the best one for me. Full stop. A tie goes to the BOS advertisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @RAWSki Masterline will put training loops into any rope you like. They also make stitch ropes. If skiers don't see what you like or have a question just call or email them. Odds are they make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 22, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 22, 2017 @Garn Masterline does put training loops into there lines. It's not the norm so you may have to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 @scotchipman just give them a call and talk to Randy or Robert. 407 656 1133. Or you can order directly from the web sits as I'm sure you know. Not sure the handle guard is in the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Freddie, Corey, Manon and Bojan decent team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 I need to order a handle. I have size small hands and am used to a 1" diameter, but now curious about a larger diameter reducing arm fatigue. What would be the logical next step, 1.03 or 1.062? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 23, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 23, 2017 @swc5150 I disagree with this premise. A larger handle has always make me feel like I use more forearm strength and is easier on my hands. I have heard that a larger handle is easier on tendons. These two ideas are a clear contradiction. Confussed? You are welcome. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Thanks @Horton More confused now than ever, yes. The only thing I know for sure is my new rope and handle will be $200+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Does Masterline still make this handle? It's not in their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yes they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 @swc5150 I'm not sure. You will have to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 Last thread hi-jack by me...Randy at ML says the ergo handle will be back soon. They're working out some issues with the internal bars breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted February 23, 2017 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2017 glad you got an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to Masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to Masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to Masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted March 10, 2017 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2017 @swc5150 go to Masterlineusa.com and the handles are on the front page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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