All new 2019 Senate Pro

[ROBOT]

All new 2019 Senate Pro! The Senate Pro is the latest creation to come out of the Radar Lab. For 2019 we updated our Senate to follow the design of our 2018 Vapor and with that we created the best Senate yet! We instantly knew we need to make it out of our signature ProBuild construction and manufacture at home in the Radar Lab!

PMI foam is undoubtedly the lightest, most responsive foam on the market. We wrap that foam in Textreme spread tow carbon to make this all-new Senate Pro the fastest, most aggressive Senate we've ever created. Now those skiing 32-34 MPH in the course truly have a racecar of a Senate to write home about.

[WoodySkier]

Looks awesome! Any feedback from the few that have ridden it? When will it be available for purchase?

[UWSkier]

This definitely has my attention.

[Rpc29]

I owe my gf a new ski if she runs all 6 buoys, does this mean a new lyric is coming too?

[Dacon62]

Have the ‘19 Senate Lithium not the Pro but I believe it’s the same shape. Ran a PB first time on it. Very balanced and fast. Came off a ‘17 Senate Lithium and I really liked that ski. The ‘19 is just a little more refined. They are going to sell a bunch of these for sure. You owe it to yourself to try one.

[APB]

Seen it in the barn at radar and in action. Looks great.

[hoppy]

What would you use NFC for on a ski?

[skidawg]

I have been even on one most of the summer, this is definitely a 34mph game changer. Less thinking more skiIng. My tourney scores are same (ran a 2&3@41 last tournament) but much easier-fast flowing turns with out a hesitation. The extra width means less work and less muscle soreness. I couldn’t be more excited.

[ski6jones]

This ski worked great for me. Very stable and plenty fast. Turns were very predictable, even when i got up on the front a bit too much (like i do, alot). Very likely my next ride. Thx for the preview @skidawg!

[Horton]

Honestly, this has been the best-kept secret all year. The guys have been working on this project for a while. I saw one at Regional this year that was all blacked out without any ski company logos on it. It just look like a big black Vapor.

[Deke]

Maybe a little off topic, but does anyone remember which ski the 2017 Senate was based on?

[Horton]

@deke 2017 Vapor

[markchilcutt]

Hmmmm this has my interest.

[DonT]

My wife is not going to like this :D

 

[KRoundy]

Oh man, oh man, oh man.... want, want, want....

[Ski_Dad]

Beautiful ski and color scheme! but at 1500.00 it's way out of my price range. waiting to see what they release about the senate alloy for 2019.

[vtmecheng]

I have to ask what @hoppy asked. What is the NFC used for on this and the new Vapor Pro Build?

[bigskieridaho]

Vapor is awesome and looks like the Senate is the same way!

[ski6jones]

@hoppy and @vtmecheng i think that was dicusses in the vapor thread.

[epnault]

Is it wrong that I switch back from a Vapor Pro Built to this? I have skied the Pro all this season and have gotten little better this year at my 34mph line lengths. The thing I like about the Senate is that I am a bigger muscular guy 205-215 and I don't think the Vapor ProBuilt is perfect for me.

[ski6jones]

@epnault i rode an '18 Vapor for a couple months this past season. Despite having some good for me scores i was not consistent. I only rode this new Senate for a week but was much more consistent. You shoud try one for sure.

[OKSkier]

@epnault I am also around 210 lbs. what size would you try?

Comes in a 67 and 69?

 

 

[Rivvy]

If anybody is upgrading and has a 2017 or 2018 67” senate they want to sell pm me. Or even interested in trading for a 2014 lithium let me know.

[Weappa]

Dear Radar - how about a 68" Senate?

[foxriverat]

@Weappa I was just thinking that. With the 34 mph ski`s getting better and more popular and commanding more$$. Only I need a 66.

[epnault]

@ski6jones - thanks I am going to

 

@OKSkier I have always picked the longest ski. My probuilt is a 69.5

[epnault]

Does Radar have a demo program like HO?

[Ed_Johnson]

I would think this would be an optimum ski for those competing in M-8@30mph.

 

[dvskier]

After Sunday M8 will be 32.3.

[markchilcutt]

-28 2nd pass on the new ski!

[Jordan]

Nice skiing @markchilcutt ! Tell us what you notice about the new ski!!!

[markchilcutt]

thanks @Jordan. I need more time on the ski before giving feedback. Initially ski feels amazing! 67 might be a bit big for me.

[Deanoski]

Mark what is your weight

[markchilcutt]

@Deanoski not sure its a weight issue as much of a height issue. I weigh 185 and 5'9" tall. A few things to consider.

A. I skied past my practice average by 2 buoys getting 5@35 skiing 2" inside 6 ball first and only set so far. (will post video)

B. I want to slow the boat down to 32mph and see how far I can get.

C. Initial thoughts, The offside turn grabbed a ton of angle which would be awesome if I was ready for it. I need more time on the ski.

D. I can see me running more buoys with less effort especially if there was a 66 and or more time to adjust to the ski. The ski turns amazing on both sides, and holds angle really well.

E. Ski doesn't feel insanely different than the Vapor.

 

 

Stay tuned as I get more time on this ski.

 

[markchilcutt]

-32 34mph first set

[mcskier41]

so you're saying no senate available in 66"? if so, I'm out.

[Chef23]

@mcskier41 the Senates only come in odd sizes. 65, 67, 69.

[C5Quest]

@mcskier I have a 66 Vapor Pro and a 67 Senate. I’m smaller 5’7” 175 lbs and I love the Senate. I feel balanced and it has great flotation and speed. It doesn’t feel too big. You might want to demo one and have it set up correctly. It might surprise you.

[markchilcutt]

@mcskier41 don’t let one persons opinion (mine) about size push you away! The new Senate might fit your skiing style better. Don’t know till you try! I am thinking about demoing a 65.

[JAS]

I really think to develop this market 66 and 68 need to be added to the line. Personal opinion.

[markchilcutt]

My Rico on the new ski!

[igkya]

With the Senate being 0.2" wider than the Vapor, would a 66 or 68 really be needed?

 

@markchilcutt Nice skiing. What ski were you on before the 2019 Senate?

[JC McCavit]

@markchilcutt - I thought the 2019 Senate Pro only comes with a blue bottom, is that an R&D ski you're riding?

[Skirvind]

You will never know if something will work unless you try it. How the ski preforms for you is what matters not the size tag . Personally I ilke a supports me on the water and moves with less effort. Don't fear a longer ski. In my book shorter is more work. I've planed a demo in a week or so. Hope to take one home. I loved the pro vapor but at 34 it could not support me as well as the senate. I'm excited to see that radar is focused on 34mph skiers!

[markchilcutt]

@igkya I am on a 67 2018 Vapor Pro

@JC McCavit it’s prototype ski. Exact same ski different graphics

[UWSkier]

Sizing makes sense to me. It's a ski with a wide performance envelope. Don't need so many sizes. Do wish they would make a 71 though. :)

[ski6jones]

@scotchipman I've ALWAYS ridden a 68, even at 190 it just felt better. I rode the 67" Senate Pro and it felt great from the start. I would not hesitate to try the 65" @ 150#. Can always step up if needed. Of coarse if Rossi or Brooks chime in, i agree with whatever they say. BTW 190# 6' 5".

[hoppy]

@ski6jones thanks I had a look, possibly useful for linking to set up info etc

[Mateo_Vargas]

What are the stock settings for the 67”?

[brooks]

@"Mateo Vargas" I would start at 6.960 2.465 .775 9° 30.5”