recommendations to buy ilmor oil filter

[LoopSki]

anyone have a good place to order oil filterd? don't feel like driving to dealer. found a few places online but I haven't heard of them before so I don't want risk waiting a month to get it

[Kelvin]

Just buy the wix/napa equivalent at your local auto parts store.

[Ski_Dad]

+1 on wix - also available at OReily's Auto

[markchilcutt]

+2 on the wix or equivalent from my local napa store.

[Ski_Dad]

I've also ordered the Wix from www.rockauto.com - got here in a few days - i keep a stash in my basement.

[BraceMaker]

I subscribe to my oil and filters on amazon for whatever quantity and interval the vehicle needs. Generally the boats are every 6 months and so one arrives in late August for winterization and the other shows up in spring which hangs till mid summer.

[lottawatta]

It is rumored that the ilmor is just a rebranded K&N filter. Holding them in my hand, they looked and felt identical. K&N is available online at jegs or summit. I found k&N at my local walmart.

[LoopSki]

. i was told it had to be a ilmor and no cross reference , figures

[pcmcon729]

After paying more than I was comfortable with for an oil filter for my 5.7 Ilmor, I emailed Ilmor engineers and got a phone call back. This IS NOT a GM filter for this engine, as it is mounted remotely, and not on the block. They explained to me that it is a high end product for a high end performance engine. He told me not to use anything else. He had nothing to gain by up-selling, and I felt he was knowledgeable and honest. I only use the Ilmor filter. If I can't get to the dealer, I have them ship me 2 years worth to distribute the shipping cost. BTW, the price per filter has gone down substantially since my first boat with the Ilmor. I have reached out to the engineers several times with other questions, as I perform 90% of repairs myself, and they couldn't be more helpful. The Ilmor and the Mastercraft product are top notch in every regard.

[Horton]

 

[swc5150]

waterskis.com will ship you the filter fast. Even with the K&N HP2010 looking strikingly similar, I prefer (preferred) the peace of mind of having the OEM.

[Horton]

OEM is smart but.... Amazon

[ScottScott]

MCPartsdepot.com

[skimtb]

Need someone to saw one of each down the middle and post pics...

[skibug]

There is a cross reference for the part number, look here:

 

https://www.oilfilter-crossreference.com/

[dbutcher]

If the Ilmor remote filter location still puts the filter upside down (like it did in 2014), I was told that whatever filter you use should have an anti flow back valve. You don't want the the filter to drain each time you shut off the engine and therefore have to refill (and delay lubrication to the engine) each time you start the engine.

[syndicate]

mobil one oil and an m210 filter work perfect on a 6.2 Ilmor

[LeonL]

What idiot engineer would put a filter upside down when using a remote location? Remote makes it pretty easy to mount any way you want. Upside down, duh.

[BraceMaker]

@LeonL Its actually a pretty slick part - has an oil drip containment with a barbed fitting.

 

 

I'd add one to my boat.

 

[oldjeep]

Looks like a dirt trap. It would be so easy to mount it the other way so that you could just drop the filter into a coffee can or ziplock.

[BraceMaker]

@oldjeep get it. Would be a problem on a car but in a boat I think it's fine. Because it has a drain you could easily spritz around with some solvent then wipe with a cloth.

[DanE]

@dbutcher A quality valve as well.

Big difference between quality brands and cheap ones.

[swc5150]

The Ilmor 5.7 is the easiest and cleanest oil change I've ever done, with the oil filter being mounted upside down. Anyone who has changed the oil on an old Indmar LT1 will greatly appreciate it.

[ForrestGump]

Are we really complaining about a $20 recommended filter price, which gets changed twice a year?

[Ski_Dad]

Horton is not going to steer you wrong - get that Wix - it has the anti-drain back valve and will be every bit as good as the Ilmor filter (which happens to be a K & N HP-2010)

 

http://wixfilters.com/Lookup/InterchangeMultiSearch.aspx?q=MV8V-1021&o=me

 

[DW]

Anti drain back for the upside down application and high burst pressure are two good criteria not to compromise on a ski boat oil filter. Why the latter, ski boats tend to run up to elevated RPM well before the oil is at a stabilized operating temperature or specifically when the oil is at a high viscosity. The truck filter which tends to be the larger filter for the specific filter mount is also a good option providing plenty of filter material. The oil filter business model is a couple of sources doing multiple branding, plenty of information online detailing common filters painted different colors.

[The_MS]

K & N 2010 at Walmart.

[ski6jones]

Oil is one of those topics people can get totally irrational about.

[Horton]

@BoneHead twice a year? I have already changed my oil twice this year.

[skimtb]

@Horton Not fair to those of us that get by with one oil change / year....

[skiinxs]

I average 5 changes/ year and really like the K&N filters. (on PCM)

[LeonL]

@horton and those in the Deep South are lucky that they need multiple oil changes annually!

[Ed_Johnson]

@skiinxs ... Do you know what model number K&N is used on the CC 6L 409 ? THX

 

 

[skiinxs]

@Ed_Johnson K&N HP 3001. All PCM's in recent years use the same remote oil filter adapter, so they take the same filter. It is actually a standard Ford type as in Motorcraft FL1A.

[Andre]

80k boats.

Trying to save 20$ on an oil filter...priceless!

 

J/K Ilmor oil filter price at the dealer is ridiculous!

[Ed_Johnson]

@skiinxs.... Thanks for the info. I have been using Royal Purple Oil and Filter for years. However, their filter is HUGE and really hard to get on and off. I know from my Racing Days that K&N makes great filters. That's where I will be going next...THX

 

 

[ForrestGump]

@horton Most people average twice a year. Even 5 times a year, you're talking about $100 for the recommended filter. Everyone can surmise that the filter is just a rebadged K&N. Even though it might be K&N, no one has any idea if Ilmor makes a special request of K&N on specifics for the filter media and valve. Just get the Ilmor. Will all the others work. Probably. Why take the chance here.

[Horton]

@BoneHead yeah I agree on the cost. I'm just making fun of people who don't put 200 hrs on their boat every year :-)

 

( yes I know I'm being an a-hole I'm just joking)

 

 

[Rednucleus]

My daughter's Subaru has the same oil filter set up as shown in that pic

[LoopSki]

So it's time to change again. Went with the Ilmor last time. Called dealer and they only have two left and are possibly allocated, won't know till later . Has anyone that uses the wix crossover had any problems?

[LoopSki]

Local auto store has the k&n hp2010.

[Andre]

Go K&N.

[Horton]

I have done 2 oil changes already this year.

[Kelvin]

Tomorrow is oil change day for my fleet.

 

[skibug]

We have a 2015 MC, there are at least 20 different filters that will work. We have used K&N, Bosch, Napa, Wix. Never had a single issue. There is no way that the Ilmor filter is that drastically different. I think one of the only things you should look for is a filter that has the back flow valve since this one sits upside down.

[Cnewbert]

@Horton before very much longer we’ll need to do our first post 25-hour break-in oil change at 75 hrs on our ‘20 Prostar with the 6.0L MPI. I’m not engine savvy enough to use anything but the Ilmor oil filter recommended, in spite of the many endorsements in this thread of alternative, cheaper options. Additionally the Ilmor owner’s manual specifies Rotella T4 15W-40. But the photo you posted above pictures Pennzoil Full Synthetic 15W-30. Is that what you currently use for the 6.0L MPI, or were you possibly using that for a 5.7L? I see you posted that in June, 2019 so I don’t know what engine your PS had back then. Anyhow, if there is a superior oil to use instead of the Rotella recommended, I’d be grateful to know. Or is everyone sticking with Ilmor’s specified oil?

[jjackkrash]

Horton actually pictured a 5w-30, Dexos I, Gen 2, synthetic, which is what GM recommends for these engines. Nautique/PCM followed suit and went from 15w-40 to the same 5w-30 Dexos 1, Gen 2 recommendation through a service bulliten about a year ago. I'd check and make sure Ilmor does not recommend the same. I'd be a little surprised if they are still recommending 15w-40.

[Cnewbert]

@jjackkrash all I have is the Ilmor owner’s manual that came with our ‘20 PS. The manual recommends the Rotella T4 15w-40 for the 6.0L MPI. I guess I could try contacting Ilmor directly. There were no updates in the manual, but maybe the new recommendation is even more recent than the ‘20 manual?

[ScottScott]

It could have changed in 3 years, but ours recommended the Rotella 15w40 for the Transmission. For engine oil it recommended the Mobile 1 full synth 5w30. I have heard good things about the wix filters and found the compatible #51372, not so much for price, but its convenient (I can pick up at the O'reilly's just down the street, and I rarely plan ahead to be able to order the ilmore.)

[Cnewbert]

There is an optical scan sticker on my Ilmor 6.0, so I figured that might lead me to the most current info on this engine and any recent changes in the oil guidance. I scanned it with my iPhone, which immediately brought me to an Ilmor webpage with a list of Ilmor marine engines to choose from. Amazingly, the very Ilmor 6.0L MPI engine that this sticker is applied to does not appear anywhere on the list. Huh? What’s up with that Ilmor?

 

But at least I found an email address for Ilmor service. I emailed them to clarify if the oil recommendation has been changed or if the factory specified oil for this engine remains Rotella T4 15W-40. The answer came back quickly. The specified oil remains the Rotella.

 

I’d love to hear from anyone with this same engine using an alternative oil to learn upon what basis they switched from the oil Ilmor specifies to something else. What do they know that Ilmor doesn’t?