Whisper Fin Pro

[KRoundy]

Have not heard much about this new fin lately but I put it on my ski this weekend and I am absolutely thrilled with it. It is like I have purchased a new ski. I love the finish of the turn and the angle I get - that I can hold (!!!) especially on my offside. I used the suggested settings with a set of calipers from Jay's web site. I equaled my best pass from last year on my third set with the fin over the weekend. I can't wait to see what this summer holds for me with this fin!!! Thanks to @SkiJay for a GREAT product!

[mbabiash]

I totally agree. I’m on the NRG R2 and rode the stock fin for 6 or so sets. Then put the WF pro on and Wow! I felt the exact same as @KRoundy. It’s definitely an improvement.

 

[igkya]

@KRoundy Assuming you had a stock fin before?

 

Anyone change from the original WF to the WF Pro?

[mbabiash]

I had the original WF and really liked it until I needed to scramble. The tail would wash too much when I was late and scrambled. Not on this new one. I will hold anything you throw at it.

[KRoundy]

@igkya Yes, was on the stock Radar fin before, essentially on the stock settings. I have not tried the non-Pro version.

[jhughes]

What skiing level are we talking about here?

[mbabiash]

I’m running 32off occasionally. Couple at 35 off.

But I know two pro men that have run 41 on the fin a lot.

[Booze]

@mbabiash - do you know if those 2 guys liked the new version better than the old?

[mbabiash]

Yes. They like it much better.

[C5Quest]

Ugh There goes another $300 ?

[lw_moskier]

I purchased the WF Pro over the winter and ran several sets at the beginning of the season on the original WF before switching as I wanted to make sure I had some clean sets first in the early season so I could really feel the change. The difference was noticeable on the first pass!

 

@mbabiash - 100% agree with the holding power of the tail compared to the original version. As advertised by @SkiJay great work!

[Dacon62]

Have a 20 Senate Pro and had the stock fin set to factory specs. Have not hit the course yet but free skiing there are a few things that are immediately noticeable once I put on the WF. Am now 10 sets in with the WF.

Ski carves a tighter arc.

Get more angle.

Ski gets in front of you better at the completion of the turn so you can get into a stronger, arms against the vest position.

Being a 15-28 off guy this fin makes it easier to perform the fundamentals necessary for success.

[BS74]

Would like to try one, but not at $300

[C5Quest]

I have 1 or 2 original WFs around I’d let go at a good price if you want to try it

[Mortyski]

Ya @SkiJay definitely knows his stuff. It’s probably a little early to ask but has anyone tried the WF pro at 32 mph? I’m in the 32 mph club now.

[Dacon62]

@Mortyski Ski at 32.3 all the time. Comments above are at that speed.

[NikolG]

Anybody know what pros use the Whisper Fin Pro? Thanks!

[Mortyski]

@Dacon62 good to know...thanks for clarifying that for me

 

[C5Quest]

Anyone using the WF Pro on a 21 Vapor?

[lw_moskier]

@C5Quest I am... I was on the 2020 with the original Whisper Fin until Delta Airlines broke the ski last Thanksgiving.

[KRoundy]

I should have put down where I am at as well. Big guy, 230lb skier on a 71” Radar Senate. 53 yrs old. Working on my 32 MPH pass, most sets with the WF Pro was a 30 or 32. I have a younger friend (low-30s age) I ski with who is of similar size and same ski, and he moved to the previous WF last year and has not taken it off. He skis through 32 MPH 15 off pretty consistently. He says similar things: finishes turns quicker with better angle, especially on his off side. I am LFF and he is RFF.

[KRoundy]

And for those who don’t like the price tag - the fins are beautiful and made of aircraft-grade high strength aluminum alloy. And, $300 is a lot less than a new ski? Just sayin’. ?

[JAS]

I tried WF but didn’t find the magic on my 2020 vapor probuild. Long/shallow stock fin works best for me. To each his own

[C5Quest]

Anymore experiences on the WF Pro?

[skibug]

WF Original is better than stock fin, WF Pro is better than WF original

[Kroeks]

I've only had 2 sets of free skiing and 3 in the course with mine so far, but I can say that I am LOVING the offside turns. The grip just gives me way more confidence to get my hips moving through the turn without risk of blowing the tail or overturning. I still need to figure out the on side a bit...sometimes I am making these big, lazy turns that put me way down course, other times it's fine. For wake crossings; I'm pretty certain I'm getting more swing speed out of the ski now, but that's tough to know for sure. I'm hoping to ski a fair bit in the next week and a half, so I can update as I learn more.

 

(For reference, I'm a 34mph guy and I usually ski 22 and 28 very consistently, and better than 50% at 32 once I'm into the season a little further. No luck at 35...yet...)

[C5Quest]

@Kroeks We’re at the same line lengths so definitely looking for feedback

[Steven_Haines]

@Kroeks , if you use the micro-just System for your findings, bump your boots bac on your ski by a notch incrementally until you get the radius of turn you want.

[Kroeks]

Update: sadly the skiing I have been doing so far this week has all been with new drivers, so some of the sets were pretty all over the place and I never bothered shortening past 28off. My girlfriend (who drove me though the course for the first time ever/third time ever driving a boat) clearly has a knack for it so I had one set where I could start to really get a feel for the new fin. The other sets were good for seeing how it handled when I was scrambling, haha!

 

The offside is even better than I originally thought. When skiing well, it just feels so much more natural than what I'm used to. The ski used to have a tendency to over-turn and kill my speed, so then it always felt like I was starting my offside pull from a deficit. That's clearly not a problem now. I'm stubborn, so my skiing can get pretty scrappy from time to time; I got very late during a pass with a strong quartering tailwind and attempted a turn that was very stupid and should've blown the tail...it didn't, and even finished the turn smoothly enough for me to get back to a good position and run the rest of the pass.

 

The onside is still giving me occasional trouble, but much less now. It seems to reward you when you move your hips up over your feet, and punish you with the super slow turns when you don't. For some reason I don't do that consistently on my onside, and it's something I tend to struggle with at the start of almost every season. I suspect the fin's ability to hold more exaggerates that problem, but on the flip side, rewards with a buttery smooth finish to the turn when I get it right.

 

That's all for now. I'll try to get my girlfriend back behind the wheel again this weekend and see how it feels at -32 and maybe -35 if things are going well.

[Stevie Boy]

I have read all the blurb on the Whisper Fin, can anybody tell me if there is any noticeable difference in how fast a ski is, ie: effort required to move across course , when using one?

Thanks in advance.

[Kroeks]

I want to say yes, but whether that is due to a reduction in drag or if the smoother finish to the turns is allowing me to achieve a better position for accelerating is unclear. I guess the result is the same either way, and I like it :)

 

My season abruptly ended 2 weeks ago, but on my last set, I salvaged a -32 off a bad gate, then ran the best -32 of my life, and then took my first try at -35 for the season...only made 3 but it was the first time that I ever felt like I had the space required at 1 and 2 to actually have a shot at running it.

[nbermudez1992]

anyone out there willing to sell one? obviously Im more interested in the PRO model, but open to trying the original. PM me :)

[Wish]

There’s one on SIA

 

https://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?endless=summer&topic=Search&category=Misc&postid=61311

[Mose]

I would like to try the whisper fin on my DV8. Has any put one on a DV8 if so much improvement

[nbermudez1992]

@Wish i have dm the owner several times to no reply :(

[scuppers]

@nbermudez1992 I use one (Pro version) I am using it in a Senate Pro but you need to know, it is not some secret sauce. The big advantage - pretty easy to adjust. Otherwise I don't see a performance gain. Stock fin = same buoy count.

[Drago]

https://finwhispering.com/product/whisperfin/

[Horton]

I forget who are the elite skiers using this product?

[slow]

Is the Denali fin being used by elite skiers that aren’t in the Denali ski?

[tru-jack]

@nbermudez1992 pm sent

[BobF]

Weren't the McClintocks both using a WF at some point? Elizabeth M is using one, I believe.

 

From my own perspective, it felt great at 28 and 32, but fell apart for me at 35. I can go deeper without it.

[Wish]

I’ll throw this out there. Sponsored skier seen with WF. Sponsor feels like public might think that fin might be seen as the reason for the high performance of their athlete and quietly suggests they change back to factory fin. Add to that the R&D these skiers do day in and day out. How are they to give feedback using a WF?...distance from tail is a tad different. My guess is, it’s been tried, liked and even HO is playing with the idea with “their” new fin design. Food for thought.

[Drago]

@Wish No way the manufacturers care if their skier is winning on a Whisper Fin. Maybe if they're involved in design they want the consistency.

[Wish]

@Drago why would they not care?. If Whitney is riding a Radar with a WF and killing it. How am I as a consumer to know it’s more the fin and less the ski. If I was ski designer who wants people to buy and buy into it being better then the others, I’d care.

[slow]

Does that apply to bindings too.

[Wish]

@slow ya I thought of that. Obviously they don’t care. But there’s not really a radical designed boot. Variations of soft or hard shells. WF is sharp departure from traditional. Why would HO be producing a fin that I’d say is the closest to the WF if they didn’t care or saw no value? Wasting their time? And it has CG holes like Denali.

 

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[nbermudez1992]

oh yeah! you are right with the HO fin. I didnt know about it. and its really cheap. makes you want to try it for the tiny price. for those looking for it they call it Ashed Balance Fin.

[DW]

Looks like a sculpted version of the old PAC Man fin.

[BraceMaker]

@Wish I don't feel as if it really looks like a whisper fin at all, it certainly doesn't incorporate any of the whisper fins design elements, the whisper fin doesn't have a bulge at the rear more of a curve and then the pro has that chopped up rear edge.

 

It does look like the HO Hex fin

 

But metal and with the asymmetrical holes - which I am not aware of a precursor to the holes other than the Obrien power port fin which had a plastic flapper sort of a reed valve that allowed water to flow through one way and blocked it the other. I don't recall that going very far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BraceMaker]

Not that this is perfect, I approximate scaling based on pixels in paint of the root of the fin basically the whole fin length including the rearwards extension of the WF You cannot move a WF far enough rearwards to line up the trailing edges of the fin FYI.

 

 

 

I also raised the WF a bit to still show the leading edge of the Asher fin.