Baller LOTW Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 8/1/21, where is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jtompkins120 Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 https://radarskis.com/2022vapor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LOTW Posted August 1, 2021 Author Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 Yes, apparently the day starts a little later for them and not 12:01. It sounds really good from the video, totally new ski not just minor changes. My wallet is vibrating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 How does the team at Radar make me want a new ski every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @KRoundy i know, right? Maybe my ski is getting worn out? No. Maybe this will help my skiing? No. Maybe this is the solution to my problems? Still no. I’ll stick with my current ski. But I do want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mateo_Vargas Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 Hmm, black or white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted August 1, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted August 1, 2021 Interesting. The Radar “Right Ski For You” chart doesn’t recommend the Vapor Pro for 32 mph. I go to M7 after Nationals and (at least in theory) have to drop to 32. I’m on a 2020 Vapor Pro now that I love, but it got damaged and I’d consider replacing it with another, newer model. The chart isn’t reassuring. According to the hype, it’s a totally new ski. That’s pretty exciting. Also, there’s two Vapor Pros offered: a silver one and a black one. Same ski, different colors? Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 This dropped last night. I watched the videos before bed. Maybe 12:01 EDT @LOTW Looking forward to trying this shape in the senate when it gets here! Love the white BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 what ever happened to the plastic tail bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @BraceMaker it mentions “Enduro Tip / Tail” — was that the plastic bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @LPskier, I think the Senate is a great ski, but I also don't think you need to dump the vapor at 32 mph if you don't want to. Last night my boy cruised through 24.9, 26.7, 28.6, 30.4, and 32.3 (all 22 off) on his Vapor Pro Build before going 34 mph (he is in the middle of the size chart for his weight/ski size) and nothing about the way he ran the passes suggested he needed a wider ski. His cousins start at 23 mph on their Vapors and run into 30 mph/22off. I also talked to Brooks Wilson about Vapors for slower speeds and he did not think running a Vapor would hold you back as long as you were not on the small size of the ski for your weight based on the size chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brooks Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @lpskier it's definitely hard to make a chart that spits out the exact perfect ski for everyone giving a multitude of factors but I wouldn't shy at all from putting you on a Vapor at 32MPH. Both ProBuilds are the exact same ski with just two different color options. @BraceMaker we are still utilizing the new tail construction as well as base material. Vapor can definitely still rip at a multitude of speeds depending on circumstance, if you ever have any questions feel free to reach out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dnewton Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @brooks do you guys have a demo program? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brooks Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @dnewton we don’t have a factory demo program, all demos are done through our dealer network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @brooks I see one set of fin settings, rather than a long shallow and a short deep. Does this new shape require a narrower range of settings?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brooks Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 @tjm during the testing process we try everything and so far numbers in that range have proven to be the most successful. As more time continues those numbers could certainly be updated but at this time we are recommending that’s where people start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted August 1, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2021 Thank you @brooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 2, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 2, 2021 I was personally victim to @brooks testing every possible fin setting. I was lucky enough to have had 2 rides on the new ski this spring. The stock settings are very good. I think this ski is going to be super successful. I suspect the other settings Brooks had me try was a prank. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ejj Posted August 2, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 2, 2021 Are the 2022 Senate models changing to the new Vapor shape as well—just a bit wider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Downunder Posted August 3, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2021 @brooks tend to agree about the speeds, my 11 year old went from a TRA to a 2019 Vapor, he rips it from 26 to 32 Mph..... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegile Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Got to try a new one at a tournament this weekend. Felt amazing! I actually asked the driver if he was going 32 rather than 34 after the first pass. Proceeded to tie my PB in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted August 3, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2021 @brooks @art90notch is needing a 67 Pro Build to demo. He just doesn’t know it. You can just send it to me. I’ll see that it gets on the right feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sivota Posted August 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2021 @brooks I am sure you are run off your feet, but a sizing question it you can spare a moment. Weight 76kgs, starting speed 30MPH into 34MPH. Looking for a little more stability. Should I be on a 67 or a 66? [or on a Senate?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2021 Infinite sweet spot sounds exactly like what I need. Can't wait to try it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted August 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2021 @aupatking Make that a 66 inch, and bring it up north to Citronelle. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OKSkier Posted August 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2021 Does anyone know anything regarding the 2022 Senate and shape? Usually the Senate gets a change a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 4, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2021 PM brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 5, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2021 Three guys ran 3@41 at Herb's Cup yesterday. I know for sure at least 1 of them were on the new whip. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 5, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 5, 2021 @UWSkier I strongly suspect the whole Radar team has been on the 2022 for a month or two. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 6, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 6, 2021 Hope my 2022 gets here soon. Rough year and 2021 is trashed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brooks Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Excited to say that the 2022 Senate Range will get the Vapor shape updates for 2022! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dbutcher Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 @brooks, please, forgive my ignorance, but is the Senate Range a new model Senate for 2022? Or do you mean that the range of Senate models will have the new Vapor shape in 2022? Whatever the case, I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 @dbutcher For years the Senate has been been based on the Vapor shape, just two tenths of an inch wider which is accomplished by adding a rail on either edge of the ski to help create lift. In years gone by sometimes the Senate has sometimes "lagged" a year behind Vapor updates. The 2022 Senate range will be based on the new 2022 Vapor shape. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 7, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2021 I was talking to one of the factory team guys today who said the new Senate is spectacular Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 I am about to go postal on fed ex. Two days in a row on the wrong truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller igkya Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 We need more details/pics of the Senates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kld11053 Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Will the Lyric also be based on the new 2022 Vapor shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 7, 2021 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2021 @kld11053 presumably yes Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 @kld11053 Yes, the 2022 Lyric is also based on the 2022 Vapor. @igkya The rest of the RADAR line should be revealed later this month - some exciting new stuff to come. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 @brooks, are you still recommending long and shallow? I heard maybe short and deep for these new Vapors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Binding and fin numbers for a 66" please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Got numbers; thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Set up and ready to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 7, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2021 Looks good @jjackkrash! Looking forward to a report. Buddy got his new Senate today too and will be hitting the course tomorrow also. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 We skied today, but there were a lot of adverse variables, like wind blowing sideways and rain, but the Boy really liked this ski. It carries crazy speed out of the ball. I think it is gonna be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 So will this thread surpass the 2016 Vapor thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller C5Quest Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 @jjackkrash whats fin settings did you use? My 66 is on the way. Same as posted on Radar site? Only see one set of numbers posted. Also see brooks said only one set out as that what worked best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 @c5Quest: 29.25 / 6.860 2.480 .755 / 9 degree wing. It looks like these are the website numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 how about word on the new boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted August 8, 2021 Baller Share Posted August 8, 2021 @BraceMaker The new Vapor boot is a total game changer. If it skis half as good as it looks it will take the industry by storm. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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