'Secret' Denali fin

[jayski]

This website is slipping, how is it NO ONE has commented on the 'secret' Denali fin that got 'exposed' by the zealous TWBC cameraman??

[Andre]

From what i saw,no holes?

[The_MS]

Won’t be secret for long if they want to sell them

[Bruce_Butterfield]

Knowing Caldwell it is a different fin every day so the “secret” part is already old.

 

If and when a new fin is ready for prime time, it won’t stay secret for long.

[Horton]

I have heard it has NACA ducts

[Than_Bogan]

Pretty sure he cut that off a pole axe.

 

 

[APB]

Aww that’s a bummer I loved the corny towel and shopping bag.

[Adam Caldwell]

@Horton what if it was a NACA duct

[Horton]

@adamhcaldwell so you are saying your fin might have been designed for hypersonic travel?

[Adam Caldwell]

@Horton designed to warp space-time.

[Than_Bogan]

I'm surprised there is no IWWF rule against warping space-time. That's quite an oversight!

[jayski]

On a Denali couldn't the increase in space and time (vs. Every other ski) be considered warping space/time? Lol

[Than_Bogan]

Sidenote: Although TMBC did an awesome job with this event, I slightly cringed each time the commentators described the Denali as having no rocker. If you actually put a c75 next to a Goode, you'll see most of the rocker is generally similar, but the extremely flat tip (which only rarely even touches the water) creates a powerful optical illusion that the entire ski is flatter.

 

Maybe it's a good thing for it to draw so much attention, but I feel by now all of those commentators should have had a chance to look a little closer! And since I know the incredible amount of blood, sweat, and tears that the Adams have put into designing their skis, I guess it feels a little insulting to say it's like a 2x4. :)

[jhughes]

@Than_Bogan it's been a long time since Tony has been on a slalom ski and I can't imagine he geeks out on gear like some of us. The ski looks odd to most people, fair mistake.

[Than_Bogan]

Fair, but it wasn't just Tony.

[aupatking]

@Than_Bogan they were talking about it.....

[NameUnavailable]

Adam is a great skier, but man he makes it look hard on that ski.... I am not sure I have the energy to ski like that even with a new fin.

[thager]

Just my observation, but the ski didn't seem to be coming around like the C-85 usually does with the other fin.

[Adam Caldwell]

@thager same fin in the ski all year. Haven’t touched it. So not sure what you mean.

 

Development doesn’t happen overnight. I thought I had “validated” the fin performance at Malibu with just getting inside 5@41 and taking 2nd place to Nate.

 

So then after Malibu I added 0.200 to the depth and took out 0.1500 length and pulled it back .200. (Yes those numbers are right).

 

At my home training site and several others I stoped at along the way, this new “zone” was crushing it and felt easier then ever. The issue seems to be that on the other boats I need more time to find the right ZO setting as the swing speed is a little different and need a touch more energy into CL then what I’m able to find on the nautique.

 

Being the odd brand/odd guy out there is never easy. We will see who’s laughing last.

[ktm300]

"We will see who’s laughing last." I love the throw down... go get 'em Adam. You gotta believe to achieve.

[jhughes]

 

@adamhcaldwell Go get 'em, I'm rooting for you!

 

Back to Than's comment I do think if you are a TWBC sponsor they should know more about the ski and speak favorably about it, the sponsors are helping pay the bills. They throw a lot of free plugs out there in the commentary (how many times did they plug Ski or Die podcast?) and then don't know their sponsor's products, that's an area of improvement for them for sure.

[DavidN]

Honestly, I don’t know what all the bashing here is about.

Tony spent more time talking about the Denali than any other brand ski (and there had been multiple ski sponsors throughout the season). He explained basically on every single webcast in length how the Denali sizing works. (All same length, only width changes, yada, yada, yada,…) Comments about the rocker (or the lack of) sounded more observational than critical to me.

How much more product exposure can a sponsor ask for?

[Than_Bogan]

@DavidN Totally agree and no "bashing" intended. Just a note for the team for the future.

[lpskier]

During the “officials” portion of the Miami Pro, Denali was the single most popular ski. 9 skiers, 3 Denalis. A full third.

[Adam Caldwell]

@DavidN - we are thrilled with how things panned out this year. We know we are different and very few know much about us at all - mainly because were not a "marketing machine" and don't really worry much about other peoples opinions. We let the scores do the talking.

 

Though we couldn't necessarily afford to, Denali ponied up and sponsored nearly every event TWBC has done the last couple seasons. I am 100% behind what they are doing for our sport and blown away by the progress they have made. Its a great team of individuals who love the sport and passionate about their craft.

 

Coincidently, supporting TWBC was a motivating factor for me just to get back involved in tournaments and be part of the action/fun. One thing that has been cool to see is the change in atmosphere/vibe at the events with TWBC on site. Even without a huge crowd or banners and bling, when you see the TWBC crew on site, you know its time for business and people are watching - CLOSELY.

 

I do think it would be a smart move for TWBC to build out a bio page for competitors that could be linked to webcast for both the viewer AND for commentators to have some info to pick through for a particular athlete or competitor.

[DavidN]

Adam, that’s a fantastic idea and would not only make it easier for the commentators to deliver accurate information and find additional topics to talk about, but also would bring valuable information to the viewers of the webcast.

Thanks for supporting these events!

[Ali]

you mean like this

 

https://www.waterskiprotour.com/skiers

[Adam Caldwell]

@Ali - yes, but there is ZERO info in them. Needs to have more relatable info.

 

Things like weight, years skiing, etc. Could also do some fun things like grip strength, min/max/avg line load, handle preference (12/13" and diameter), binding setup, fin settings, ZO option for the different boats, rope preference, ski and ski size, etc.

 

Would be great to see those profile links pop on the webcast when a particular skier is on the water. (no clue how difficult that might be).

 

I'm sure they already have big plans and much more! Excited for 2022 to see what they put together!

[Ali]

@adamhcaldwell agreed we need more, but I think this is the correct place for it

 

@FWinter think we can start getting some info like what Adam suggests? Ski nerds love all this info.

[Than_Bogan]

Hey I resemble that remark!

[Drago]

I would add their top 3 sponsors.

Back on topic: I cannot confirm nor deny that I received or sent this secret photo from a guy or girl that may have been or is currently a very elite or pedestrian skier

 

[Freddie Winter]

@Ali Mr Caldwell has some great ideas and the plan from the Waterski Pro Tour team is definitely to build out the website to give water ski fans more info on skiers, amongst many other things.

 

It has been a big year in which the whole team has worked very hard and, in my humble opinion, achieved a fair bit. We hope you have enjoyed the consolidated event info, webcast hosting and skier rankings on the website along with the social media effort that aims to put our sport in front of those that are not already involved and addicted.

 

All feedback is welcome. Please email me at freddiewinter@gmail.com.

 

Now I'm goin to Off Topic myself.

[Adam Caldwell]

@FWinter - Even as a work in progress, I feel the energy and brains behind the Waterski Pro Tour and TWBC has done more positive things for our sport in the last 9 months than I have been whiteness to in the last decade - if not two!

 

I cannot wait to see what you guys are able to do long term and its been an amazing experience to be able to be involved both as a competitor and supporter.

 

Keep up the hard work! Can’t thank you all enough!

 

[CsSkis]

@Drago Ignoring the humorous allusions, but what is that thing???

[BraceMaker]

@CsSkis not a fan of Tacos?

[Drago]

@CsSkis Just the 2nd best tool of the 20th century.

[Horton]

@Drago if that is an avocado slicing tool I am going to consider initiating an intervention for you.

[richfoster]

Let the intervention begin!

[richfoster]

@NameUnavailable I’ve been on mine all year and it’s easy on my body. Of course I’m not skiing 36 or running 39 like Adam.