mike_mapple

Same here! @dave2ball msg me if you want me to email or if you want me to just put it onto your account in the shop.

im going to call BS until a name is said. Ive pulled and skiied with the best in the world/ever and never once seem them past 4 ball even at lower speeds. Any of the top skiers who ski 36 do not think 34 is easier to run passes at shorter length as the timing is different. Until a video is produced or a name. I will stand firm on my BS call.

I also never saw my dad run it at 34, and someone who doesn't want to be named is running it? Seems like either a solid ski school swerve was done for them, or the DR is back.

Was the last name Michaels?

got it all emailed out to you!

most of the pros have tried the other skis..That is pretty common practice. Esp if they have anything to do with the input of new skis. I know multiple skiiers who came and tried our skis back in the day early morning and were gone before anyone showed up at the lake. There isnt really any big secret in skis, and most companies will get hands on the other companies to do Research and copy.

@Horton I reached out via pm also, but still have not heard back, Ill give it 48hrs if not we can give it to second place?

updated the first post below is what was added.. ********Just an update on this for you guys, after speaking with Bill we are still offering this, however we want to make sure it is someone who contributes or has been a member for at least 3 months on the site, I have had a few people who signed up then immediately asked for the discount. If you are new (less than 3 months) still feel free to email me, just include your BOS username please, This will be case by case for these instances.

Meters if im not mistaken?

36, ive seen my dad get to 3, at 34 he got to 4 but had to throw the ski around it, it is a whole different beast that 41, I have to agree with @AdamCord about the skis changing will improve the chances.. We used to always have a fun day every now and then and let people try the pass at what ever speed they wanted to give them and idea what the gate was like. That used to always make me laugh!

I would check your invoice, Radar uses pro shops to fill orders placed on the site, but also they are great people so they will help you out, and at least get you pointed correctly

Congrats @mmadore21 shoot me a pm and lets get you all squared away!

Love the color!

glad we were able to help!

We ran a smaller pro shop there also, but when nautique took over, they didnt want us to do it anymore..but yeah bill was a part of growing it all, we used to do all the rentals for them.

yes a ski is 500, buy land and dig a lake, Min 500k in a rural area..you could lease a building and put a tennis court in it for much less, or build and own land..pouring concrete is much cheaper than digging a lake (Tennis) and upkeep is way less than a lake. As this i have first hand knowlege of with our lake, I know what it costs to have the water treated, fish have to be bought/ buoys(not really big) insurance if you have events / anything where people can die (I dont know what tennis insurance/golf would be like) Golf course cost 7-25million to build lets say. bigger land for sure, but they also sell memberships for (bayhill) 30k initiation fee, + minimum spending each year on golf / food + 8k annual dues. On this they have a waiting list right now, so lets say they have 1k member total thats more money in one year than most ski clubs will ever make. No obviously you have costs to maintain that property. More land and more people = more money overall. I looked into turning my lake into a "club" but the amount of people who complain about paying 50-70$ for a ski ride makes it not even worth a headache, yes golf is 45-100$ average at some places, but then they are buying food and getting 300 people a day at some places (not everywhere of course) A club pays lets say 70-80k for a new boat, which people complain when its not the newest so lets say that expense is every 3-4 years and maybe only have 20-30 memebers? Dues are higher and cost is higher, as soon as someone wants to buy a lake that handle 100-300 people a day, I can think of maybe 4 places that could make that work...skiing is a niche sport at best For golf that good 500 set will last people most of their life just like that 500$ ski can (unless you are trying to ski alot) which is the same for golf, I dont need my 1k set of clubs, just like 75-80% of people dont "need" the highest end skis, but we all want to get the best or we wouldnt be in the ski industry. Really what it boils down to, Skeet shooting / Tennis / golf (in this conversation) are more marketable (tennis year round pretty much anywhere) Golf is getting more mainstream with Top golf and others like it. Skiing requires that 100k boat(less if you go older models of course) So its a much more "personal" buy. Golf Tennis, and I dont really know about shooting have way more "public clubs" which is what skiing needs, but someone would need to spend some serious cash they dont plan to get back anytime soon in order to do so. The side note I dont think many golf course actually treat the water, the run fountains in some to keep the water moving, since no one is in them, they are typically just taken over by algae.

we do not have anything to do with OWC, they are owned by nautique.

No Action is the Mastercraft dealer, it will be similar to how its been in the past for us, where we will put on events that Mastercraft will be apart of / Gravel tour, which is wake event we used to do will be coming back as well.

skip the gates, just go right to one ball.

while I agree with this, tennis / most other sports are bad examples, as for tennis you bring your own racket, which is what 500$ tops for the highest end? (I could be way off) Golf is the same, a solid set of clubs will set you back 9-1200$ but then thats all you need, and then you go play, with skiing, having a club is great but the pricing will never the be same( maybe golf is a bad example as I pay sometime close to 100$ for a round) but for tennis they built the courts and have very little upkeep fee, compared to having to have a 150k boat, a lake, and then upkeep/gas on all that. I do think it is a great way to keep it going, look at LaPoints, we get so many people in the shop who are members there. I hope to see more places like that pop up, as that is what will help to keep skiing strong. Dying is quite an overstatement though..

JT has done the master ramp for the past few years.

I have one in the garage, it was nice if you set a fin by hand, then set that to be the same, then you could do a bunch at one time. that was all i ever used it for lol.

We do have Icaro here at the shop also.

Did you bring those 3 that didn't hold air back in? I'm sure I can get you squared away if you want to shoot me an email, or give me a call.

Rope length doesnt matter(to much), but making sure when you a turning you are high enough on the boat, and not just making a big arching turn actually making the turn like you are trying to backside the buoy.