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IMO using boots with bungie release work great, but need to be sized very well. Get a size where your toes and ball of foot are tight in the boot, and heel locks down solid when standing. So essentially your foot goes absolutely NOWHERE when standing and loading the ski. Then just make sure your bungies are set so the heel can lift. Test it by lifting the heel several times when putting boot on and setting bungie. If you can't get the heel past the point where the foot pivots out without hurting, it's too tight. But again you need the foot really tight when down and standing on the ski. That's the truck, finding the right size to hold position laterally.

Skied today with @rodecon and personally tested the cup holders with CB Caged Alpha Monkey (look it up). Cup holders do work!

I have a Hewitt cantilever. Aluminum frame, stainless and brass hardware. It is fantastic. Light, easy to crank (yes hand crank). I did not mount a canopy and just use the mooring cover on the boat. It is a clean look from shore. I also connected the front and rear foot pads with 2x10 pressure treated runners. Fabbed up some aluminum ski tips and attached to the 2x10s with carriage bolts. It looks like a sleigh and goes in and out of the water like a breeze. I'll look around for some pictures if anyone is interested.

@bkreis yes I plan to ski right back to the handle smooth and hook up arms straight and no big hits! That's the plan, sounds simple eh?

I have not ruptured the bicep tendon, but it was severely aggravated at the end of last season. I ski with @Sailworks and as you may have seen in other threads, he is a big proponent of the power vest. I've seen him take 30-minute sets in that thing, it is amazing! Anyhow, he helped me diagnose my issue, and through some PT and lots of heat, stretch, and resistance - it feels better. Season in Upstate NY will start in the next few weeks.... so a question to others who have had this injury. How sudden did it happen? Was it stressed and building over time, or did it just explode all at once? I ask because mine seemed to accumulate, and never did rupture, just became very aggravated and I stopped skiing. I would hope when I get back out there I would get some warning if it was not happy, rather than a sudden blow-out.

@Keukaskier, Just as @Rodecon mentioned above, he and I both have portable courses. His on Conesus and mine on Keuka. Very few people know about them because we set them in the dark, ski at first light, and then get the hell out. Its the price you pay on public lakes... a lot less sleep to get good water. We are always in need of people willing to meet early to set. Is not that bad though, with three regulars it takes 20 or 25 minutes to set the course. PM us in the spring, see you out there! Just as the posts above suggest, you'll find many opportunities to ski in Upstate the more you dig into the scene. Its amazing how many people are actually in the ski community from the North Country, through the Finger Lakes, and some private ponds scattered about.

@rodecon skis RADAR also, and I hear he is going Mohawk in honor of KC

I prefer the SN 200.... Luckily I get a lot of course time with a few of them, not mine unfortunately. Don't rule out the SN 206. That was a stretch 196 with an open bow. Mine is a 2009 with the 343 and 'factory cruise'. It's basically an rpm lock, and gets your times pretty close. Very forgiving. So even though it is not the tournament pull, it has lots of room, great layout, good wake and just a fun lake boat. If you found a clean 2006 to 2009, maybe look. They stopped in 2010 when the 200 was introduced.

I've seen that picture around in adds for years, and always thought.... man.... that is about as bad as it gets to ANYONE who skis. Wouldn't someone have mentioned that to the sponsors ??

@Waternut Yes, that post was from last winter and since then I have really worked on my range of motion on the ankle, and it has helped a lot. I still use the rear boot and leave the cuff a little loose.

Maybe you guys in the negative BI range should be reporting your BAC as well. Maybe there could be a BAC correction factor for the weighted BI??

Maybe you guys in the negative BI range should be reporting your BAC as well. Maybe there could be a BAC correction factor for the weighted BI??

I would like to see the HO Apex return. The base-less design puts your foot on the ski except for the 3/16" foam footbed. The plate goes out to the edges for strength, and if your draw a FBD, you will see the lateral control is much better by pushing and pulling the edges rather than trying to pivot on center screws. They are light and have very good lateral support (not as much as a hardshell, but more that the Vapor). I replaced the front shoe lace with a bungie on mine. I can cinch the front bungie and ankle bungie separately to give me the confidence in release. If you size them right, your toes and ball of foot go absolutely nowhere and still allow your heel to breathe a little. I've tried to buy the 2014 Apex (last model built) and they are completely wiped out, all gone. Bring them back!!!!

Honeoye rocks! I've skied the old permanent course south end (gone now sadly - for many reasons...) There is also a portable course that goes in Honeoye on occasion. Back on topic, many of the finger lakes in upstate NY often do not freeze (Canandaigua, Keuka, Seneca, Cayuga) and with several ski mountains nearby it is certainly possible to double up. I encourage it!

My crew skis upstate NY also @skihacker. Skied today on Conesus Lake. Have done the "double". It was a few years back, early April. Skied Bristol Mountain in the morning, then Canandaigua Lake in the afternoon. Onanda launch has enough water through the winter.

I agree seems very difficult. BTW I was envisioning the typical 5 to 8 foot water depth and reshaping the topography, was not suggesting a monster dam 30 ft. The berms on that end would be huge, but only 5 to 8 feet of water. Still probably too much to move though.

Anyone out there built a pond on a sloped lot? A place in mind has about a 60 foot elevation run over 1700 feet. So we would basically lower one end 30 feet and raise the other end the same 30 feet. Is that even possible?

We do have a lot of fun on the public waters even so...... no question there!

Vote is yes, frequently ski slalom courses on public waters. Network of friends and ski buddies use public water. One permanent course (yes we have the permits to do that) and a couple other portable courses. The permanent course is a 35 minute drive, and the portables are much closer but 20 minutes set up. In all cases, the same ingredients lead to success... you have to be up and on the water before first light, have the first skier in the water when the second hand strokes legal day-break, and then ski like hell before the fisherman and rec boaters show up. Also helps to burrow into your local fishing club websites to learn the tournament schedules. Oh... and then there is the wind. Ski locale greatly depends on that. So all that said........ wow is it nice when we can ski on the couple private ponds in the area!!!! Way, way, way better for sure. Its so nice skiing any time of the day and concentrating on skiing well, rather than waking at stupid:30 and eating rollers all morning.

You are the first off the dock, total freakin glass, and you pile it up on one ball, opening pass. Been there??

@6balls thanks! Can't seem to get the image to load full screen.

Can't seem to get image full size?

2004 Ford F250 and 2009 Ski Nautique 206

Yes, thanks! I heard back from a couple guys in the area, you guys are the best! See ya soon.