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now if they could just get the price of 93 back down below $3-gal!

by shudder do you mean vibration or engine shudder? I run a 422 on my 196.

Miles of navigateable waterway: 14+ Public water body name: classified Location: classified

Triple panda would offend Caldwell and he would no longer provide advice on the forum......nor a Denali ski for @Horton to unbox

Only if your toes are painted

@DynaSkiPete do you have any pictures of wake profile from the Dyna-Ski 20' or 17'6 at slalom speeds? trick speeds? Curious what the wake, troughs, rooster tail, spray look like. I checked your website but didn't see any. Also think its really cool what your are doing with your brand. I grew up with these kind of boats. My dad still has a 14' 1955 Crosby with 25hp outboard (learned to ski behind this one) and he just recently sold a 1966 flat top.

I'm going to assume the top of everyone's list is safety, reliability and quality/build. That aside, I think a lot of it depends on what the buyers primary use is going to be and whether or not they have water front property or trailer it every use. My 2 cents... Average "waterski" family who lives on the water: 1. interior/exterior functionality (seat layout, platform, helm) 2. wake (combo, slalom, kneeboard, trick, beginner wakeboard, tube :s ) 3. speed control (something that keeps you close, but not worried about world records) Average "waterski" family who doesn't live on the water and trailers their boat: 1. storage 2. interior/exterior functionality (seat layout, platform, helm) 3. bimini (sun management) I'm just guessing people buying an outboard boat are not slalom course buoy chasers, 5,000+ point trickers, surfers, or extreme wakeboarders.

as skiers we have access to water and a dock among other things. Why get hung up with a bar height, standards, and a foam pit when FIERLIJEPPEN will serve all the basic needs? This would make the ultimate 4 event tournament! Go ahead, google it. FIERLIJEPPEN

We did the tube thing for a few years....if you don't get them centered and tied down they have a tendancy slide out. The foam raft pads work the best. We use 5 of them. 2 under the winch corner and the others on each of the corners. Much more stable.

What has worked for us. 1. Make sure they are comfortable on combos first. (getting up every time, cutting back and forth, and even picking one ski up out of the water slightly) 2. when they are ready for their first time dropping I would ride on combos right beside them and hold onto their life jacket. This helped in several ways. I was right their next to them so coaching them through the process was simple and much easier than yelling from the boat. It also allowed me stabilized them while they slowly dropped the ski and found their balance. This boosted their confidence. I always reminded them don't drop and quickly try to find the RTP. Just drop and get your balance, then slowly move your rear foot to find the back of the ski. Then slowly slip into the RTP. Once they were balanced and looked comfortable I would slowly let go of their life jacket and drift away. 3. The boat driver is the most important part of the deep water start. He/she has to be in tune with the skier in the water. Proper rope tension and how long the boat driver provides the rope tension will help them achieve the correct "tuck" position. Everyone is a little different on how long you provide tension and how hard/soft of a hole shot they require. Foot in or foot out is a skiers preference, but both produce a similar pull from the water. Tell them to let the boat do the work and hold that tuck position tight with your chest slightly proud. Keeping your chest proud will help resist the urge to lean too far forward or too far backward. Balance balance balance and fight fight fight to keep that ski right in line with the boat. 4. Make sure they are having fun and don't get discouraged!

Thanks guys, good feedback. If I would have done a little more homework I would have realized that perfski sells all the overlay replacements as well. T-Factor soon to be coming my way. Maybe it will help me find more than 2 ball at 35.

Due for a new binding this season (if summer ever gets here in Ohio). Used a rear lace D3 Leverage for the last several seasons and no complaints. The T-Factors are intriguing due to ease of entry, but other front lace bindings I've owned seemed to fail earlier. The lace eyelets rip out, cords come loose, etc. D3's seem to be built like tanks and I always keep my gear out of direct sunlight. Any feedback from other ballers running a T-Factor and how they hold up? Thanks! RFF skier, RTP, 34mph, 15-35off

Talk about turning heads on the water. What a cool boat!

Way out of my league but I'm betting it will sell. No data to support my assumption but everything associated with water recreation nowadays seems to drive a higher pricepoint and people seem to keep paying. Bare lots to houses/cottages to boats to gear. Maybe I'm wrong but the wake barges did seem to break the $150k barrier fairly quickly. Several will be in on it right away, proclaim it's the greatest thing since sliced bread (which it probably will be), and the craze will begin. I think it's fun watching innovation. I'm gonna go charge my phone, make a bowl of popcorn, sit back and watch the ball of spray forum go exponentially out of control for the next few days.

Way to rub it in.....long winter late spring for us here in ohio

Well crap. I was just getting ready to start a thread on recommendations between the leverage blackout and Tfactor. Most lace ups I've owned don't hold up like the traditional overlays do. Maybe I'll wait.

What is the current record?

I owned one of those unicorns for 3 years. Great crossover boat. As far as towers, most boats can be retrofitted with a tower. I did it back in my wakeboarding days. Just do your research if you go with an aftermarket tower other than one designed for the boat. It could be the difference between spider cracking the gel or not.

@BraceMaker none of our crew could stomach hauling the portable course in and out of our boats with all the river scum on it. The work barge was a must.

We really like our insta-slalom. Going on 5 yrs with no issues. Fortunate to live on the public water where we use it. Invested in an old, dirt cheap, stripped down 20' pontoon to use as a work barge to put it on and out and store it on when not in use. 3 of us can have it in and skiing in 25min and pulled back out in 20min. The "docktoon" also helps keep the boats clean.

Toilet bowl cleaner works good. The higher concentrate of hydrochloric acid the better it will cut hard water build up. I use The Works or Sno-bol. Just keep it away from decals and rinse the trailer and concrete floor with water when done. It will cause rust on a trailer and can cause weak concrete to pop sometimes. Also remember that the acid will cut any and all wax that's on the boat. Several coats are recommended after cleaning otherwise the brown stain will come back quickly.

@Brady mowing grass sounds pretty good right about now. @S1Pitts this is a one for one replacement of what I have now ( acme 422).....minus the small dings from the log I slammed this past summer. It's a great prop. The thread title came from my wife's reaction on why I got so aroused when it showed up the other day.....i told her it's hard to explain. I was originally going to name the thread "what's the best prop for tubing", but the risk of getting a panda from @Horton before he even opened the thread deterred me.

Now if I could just magically make the snow and ice disappear

@swc5150 the only thing more boring that surfing is watching surfing