I used to use the red 41 tails, I got a yellow pair and like everyone else said, they just weren’t the same. I tried the legends but they got a hole real quick. Now I’m trying a pair of the vapor boas, I do like cinching the glove down. The gloves are good, but still not perfect, especially for the price tag. I’m not sure I buy the inside out construction, it seems to make it bulky on the outside, I never noticed seams on the inside so I I didn’t see a reason for them to change it.