Baller Dirt Posted August 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2012 Matt Brown went out before him and crushed a tailwind 39 to put pressure on Badal. Greg got a great start at 41 and it looked like he was going to run it. Awesome skiing! Great driving (as usual) by Elaine Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 Any video out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted August 27, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 There is video of the boat path, gates and skier from the boat on a DVR at Shortline. I am not sure how to get a copy of it. Unfortunately I had just gotten out of the water and did not film it. Matt's ride was impressive also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Right on! That is damn impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detrick Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I am working on getting the video from the boat....I would have been videoing the 41 but I was on the tower judging. He actually didn't get a good start. He was on the tail and falling back out of 2, came in very narrow to 3 but stayed patient throughout the pass to get to 5. Great skiing Greg!! Team HO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 Need help understanding records. Which record is which? I thought Todd Ristorcelli set the record. Who holds the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 I think the current record is 4@41 by Jeff Rogers last year. Todd R's 5@41 from Nationals still needs to be approved and is pending which would put Badal's in the same category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 It would be a tie of the MM record and a new M4 national record. (I think) BTW how did you ski Dirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 More help please. What is the difference between a world record and a national record? Todd won Nationals with a world record and Greg set the National record by matching the world record. Greg fell at Nationals but skied a record tournament for the National Record...I am so confused, what is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 What is the difference between a world record and a national record? World record applies to all skiers in the division world wide. National record only applies to a given country in this case the USA You can brake/tie a World & National record in any country, and it has to be in a R or Record capable tournament. Badal skied in a RC so his National Record can also be submitted for a world record as well. Its all in the wording.. If it is a world record it will also be a national record for the skiers country of origin. National records are not usually world records though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greg Posted August 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 27, 2012 Correct me if I am wrong but the score cannot be submitted as a world record, the boat speed would have to be 58K for WR submission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwillygood Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 soooooo close! but very very very impressive skiing none the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 World record for 35+ division I believe is where it would go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wski1 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Actually Greg now has two pending records, in the Big Dog at Nationals prior to Todd's 5 at 41 Greg got 4.5 at 41 Off for the record before Todds, and not the 5 @ 41 off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregDavis Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Not bad for an old guy. Congratulations Greg, that is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Not intentionally exposing to much about the guy here, but how old is Badal? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Texas6 63 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Haaaaa! Nice @Horton; stellar skiing for such a young up and comer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Horton I just called Badal and told him how old you were telling people he was. He said his old a$$ would stuff you in your sport tube head first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Horton says sport tube's are far too heavy for 63 year old world record holders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2012 OK I have no idea how old Greg is. Not really 63 or even close. USAWS site will tell you if you look him up. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 does IWWF recognize and or validate 55K records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'll look it up. Feels good to be barely within 20 balls of a 63 year old Badal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 In the scorebook, it looks like his score was class "L" World records have to be set in Class "R" Minor judge requirements between the two classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 MM at the Nationals was class L too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greg Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 The IWWF only recognizes world records for men at 58K, women 55K. Outside of that the IWWF recognizes world tournament records for Jr's, U21, 35+, ect. These must be set at the World Tournament of the corresponding division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 What is the difference between an L and an R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 L scores get submitted to the world ranking list R can be a record as well as get submitted to the world rankings I believe . Like @ntx said there is only a minor judge requirement that separates the two. I thought MM at Nationals would be R..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Class R. All judges must be senior (5 req) plus boat and gate video required. Class L. 3 sen judges & 2 regs. Boat and gate video is optional. End course video is required for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 IWWF only recognizes world records at 58K so anything for the men at 55K only needs to be class L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Traditionally, it's not recognized as a bona-fide world record, but called "the best in the world". If it was set in the US, the Euros say he cheated. If its set in Europe, we say they cheated. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Than_Bogan Posted August 28, 2012 Gold Member Share Posted August 28, 2012 And if it's set in Europe by an American then the video is mysteriously erased... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 It's called a masters men world record because it's the biggest 34 mph score in a record in the world, there is no official 34 mph world record, that being said, Jeff had the record at 4.5- Greg tied it at big dawg, TR got 5(pending), now Greg tied that. That's a mean few weeks of skiing, congrats to TR & Greg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Wait a minute . . . based on the picture Badal tied the record behind a doggy old Mastercraft? Hmmm, I guess they aren't so bad after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 @Razorskier1 you are kind of being disrespectful by saying that. Past 28 off everything is the same as far as wake goes so that has no bearing here. Go to a tourney and watch some kids skiing 28 mph or my wife skiing 30-32 mph behind one, it is simply ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @kfennell -- no disrespect intended -- just poking a little given all that nearly all the comments on BOS regarding MC have been less than flattering. At a tournament this weekend all the kids requested the 2 year old LXi over the MC for that reason. My wife skis 15 off at 28, 30 and 32 mph behind my 2005 MC 197 and slices through the wakes without issue. Does that mean she wouldn't like the wakes of a new TXi or CC200 better? Nope. She could. Unfortunately for her she's stuck with my old boat until I win the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 @Razorskier1, you took the words right out of my mouth. No disrespect intended on my part either, but my opinion is the 197 has gotten an undeserved bad rap recently. Yes it needs an update, but still a stellar boat. Mine has 600 hard hours on it and it's taken me from 15 off well into short-lines with no complaints at all. Great boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 With metalflake like that it could ski like a BellBoy and I would still love it! Of course, I think that driver could make a Bellboy ski nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I can't believe these guys are going to take down 41. When do these guys top out? Are they almost there..........they can only reach so far. What's the age difference between Badal and ToddR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2012 Badal is 50 The Editor is 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller auskier Posted August 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 30, 2012 sooooo.. where is the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edbrazil Posted September 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 1, 2012 Update on records, as of August 30th, per http://www.usawaterski.com/pages/divisions/3event/AWSAPendingNationalRecords.pdf --Jeff Rodgers 4.5 @ 41 (MM & M3), done June 3rd, finally approved on August 29th. (Jeff is now in M4 post-Nationals). --Todd's and Greg's 5 @ 41 (MM & M4) are pending as of August 30. --Chet Raley's 3 @ 41 (M5), done July 8, is approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted September 1, 2012 41 goes down this weekend at Shortline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 1, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted September 1, 2012 I would love to see the boat vid for Todds record at nats. I would love to see them all but being that its nats, would the committee maybe give some leeway to that record to protect the reputation of the event? (this is not saying that Todd did not run it, I know that he can and the driver was probably right down the center) I am just speaking in jest. All record vids should be made public for all to view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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