Baller_ The_MS Posted January 24, 2013 Author Baller_ Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sell the kids and get a new boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 24, 2013 Author Baller_ Share Posted January 24, 2013 Would you rather have a 2008 or 2009 196 for 34K or a 2010 LXI for 42K? http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=22167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2013 No complaints...I'm a pretty fortunate guy. Great family, job, home. Have a boat and people to ski with; it could get a little better(cooler boat, warmer weather), but not much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted January 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2013 I think the 34k price tag for a 08/09 is very inflated. I will know soon since we have one we are looking to move soon. I would be happy with 25k (no trailer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 24, 2013 Author Baller_ Share Posted January 24, 2013 @ntx How many hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted January 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2013 @MS Can't say for sure since I have not been in the boat since mid Oct........... but my guess is that is about 950 +/- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted January 24, 2013 Author Baller_ Share Posted January 24, 2013 You are in the range. Inflated is when you get into a new boat over 50k. You will see low hour 196s continue to hold value well as long as the new boats keep going well over 50k. Like Razor and 6balls, running them to 2000 hours is much better then buying a new boat. I still think the best deal out there is a 2002 196 with the Excalibur engine that you can upgrade to ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted January 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 26, 2013 Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goingfor6 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 And the prices still stay high seven years later! https://offshoremarinenj.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=8023859&p=1&s=Year&d=D&t=preowned&fr=xPreOwnedInventory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 I've never seen a 2008 with those graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edmund Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 That boat has been for sale on ski-it-again since last October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 Won't be long and a brand new Prostar will be cheaper than a 196;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Edmund Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 @swc5150 Let's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtjc Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 @LeonL my 08 Limited 196 has the classic graphics as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted July 31, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 31, 2020 @LeonL in both 2008 & 2009 you had a choice of graphic option. We had one in each year and we went with what was called "classic" which is like the photo above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted August 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2020 So it looks like Nautiques holds their value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2020 Aahh that rego number, I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted August 1, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 1, 2020 @LeonL our 2007 has the same graphics package as pictured. I like my platform modification with SeaDek better than a stock one though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller WiscoSkier Posted October 21, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2023 So 10 years after the thread started, 3 years from the last bump ZO 196s are still mid to high 20s. Is this a reflection of less and less ski boats being made? Less new/used boats hitting the market and the price differential to upgrade has only increased so is the 196 worth keeping? will the depreciation start? I know boats sales are way down but 196s seem to still move in that 25-30k range or is it just a darn good boat that will always be desired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 21, 2023 Author Baller_ Share Posted October 21, 2023 I ski behind an 07 once a week and absolutely love the pull. If I needed a boat and the right 196 was there, no problem. The hulls are solid and have held up well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted October 21, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2023 TSC3 all day long and twice on Sundays. As good as you can get today with a $100K discount. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted October 21, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2023 Still running my 02 196 which I converted to ZO in 2010. Outstanding ZO pull in the slalom course. When I was skiing competition I had no problem skiing behind the other boats to the same level as at home at a HUGE discount in price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jpwhit Posted October 21, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, WiscoSkier said: So 10 years after the thread started, 3 years from the last bump ZO 196s are still mid to high 20s. Is this a reflection of less and less ski boats being made? Less new/used boats hitting the market and the price differential to upgrade has only increased so is the 196 worth keeping? will the depreciation start? I know boats sales are way down but 196s seem to still move in that 25-30k range or is it just a darn good boat that will always be desired? 196's are really the first generation of ZO boats starting in 2007. And boats before mid 2007 that have the PCM EX330 engines are also easy and cost effective to convert to ZO. You can certainly convert other older boats to ZO, but there will never be that many of those around and IMO it no longer makes economic sense to covert older boats to ZO. So, you're not going to see many more of those converted IMO. On top of that, the 196 have really great wakes that rival the wake characteristic of the most modern boats. I expect that ZO enabled and capable 196s will always retain a fairly healthy price, because they will always be the most cost-effective option for a ZO boat with very desirable wake characteristics. The price will likely slowly go down as the price and availability of older 200s drops down, but both will likely be very slow declines IMO because there will always be fairly good demand for these boats relative to the quantities available. The fact that the MasterCraft 197s in this same timeframe during the ZO transition were great trick boats, but weren't known as MasterCraft's best effort for slalom wakes, especially at slower speeds and longer line lengths, also makes the 196s and early 200 the go to boats in these year ranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller WiscoSkier Posted October 21, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, jpwhit said: The fact that the MasterCraft 197s in this same timeframe during the ZO transition were great trick boats This actually my exact situation. Love a good trick boat (I know strange) but 07-08 MCs (and malibu) unless they already have ZO are basically impossible to convert at a reasonable price. I know resale wise a 08 ZO 196 will be better then a 08 perfect pass 197. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chaloux Posted October 22, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2023 The prices at the start of this thread are just totally bonkers. Sheesh. Friggin' ten+ year old boats are going for more than a 5 year old *immaculate* boat at the time. This timeline is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 22, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2023 Prices are pretty much based on how badly someone wants to sell more so than how badly someone wants to buy. I have an '08 196 with less than 700 hours, really well kept and serves me quite sufficiently. If someone came along and offered me 50k I'd turn him down. What else could I get for 50k that would suit as well? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bananaron Posted October 22, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 22, 2023 @LeonL Carbon pro I think is a great boat and you can buythem for a lot less.And yes boats are still priced high since the pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TEL Posted October 24, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2023 That's great that my boat is worth so much. I bought mt 08 196 with 430 hrs in 2016 for $25,000. I think I will keep it, skies Great. I ski behind a 2018 200 every other time I ski and I can not tell the difference skiing. 200 Tracks a little better driving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BrennanKMN Posted October 24, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2023 @LeonL I think you nailed it. The "replacement cost" of my ZeroOff equipped 196 is significantly higher than the sale price of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted October 24, 2023 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2023 I ski behind a 02 And 07 both ZO, as well as the new tugs, the old Nauties feel great and drive like sports cars! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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