Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 What year and model also converted or repowered to facilitate ZO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashman Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 Ski Nautique closed bow. By the time I put a few more thousand hours on it and bring it to Jody for repower I might be good enough to want zero off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Promo- So we've always got the latest. Our '14 200 will be here in a couple of weeks and this year we've also got a '14 ProStar that'll ship in December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 2009 Malibu Response LX. I believe this might have been the first year for ZO in the RLX. One thing that was cool about Malibu is that they still produced the RLX for orders even when they no longer marketed it in their active product line information on the website or brochures. It also gave them sort of an entry-level boat, as the RLX price was less than the RLXi or TXi. Yes, it is an older hull and the TXi drives better. But, it is a very capable boat, good value, and a great hull design that people still liked. I do not know if you can still order one today. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 7, 2013 Author Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 just sold my 2012/13 SN200, have a 2009 196. waiting on the New 2014 CB 200. I have a 1982 2001 SN and a 1982 American Skier Volante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Lieutenant Dan Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 A pair of 2001's - my Malibu Sunsetter LXI and my ski buddy's Ski Nautique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 We have an 07 Moomba Möbius that just turned 500 hours last night. It has been a good boat, no ZO but we do have perfect pass. At some point I will want one if the big four towboats. Saving my pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2002 SN 196 ZO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2004 RLXI with perfect pass, no interest in zo, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Footer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 2003 Malibu Response LX. 410 Hours and well cared for. Love that boat :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 97 & 92 MC PS 190's. No ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 '05 RLXI, 520 hours and going strong. Ditto what @skihacker said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 Malibu Response Lx with PP, heater, 1060 hours and No need for ZO. Almost all of the hours are from the original owner. They used it as a year round slalom machine. Now it’s my turn to put some hours on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Had the first 196 with ZO in South America in early 2008, then a 2010 200 and now a 2013 200. Although we do not change as often as the promo guys, we do not have them long enough to really love them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 2012 196, pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogboy Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Correction, 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 1991 MC PS190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 97 SN. Stargazer. My level has no need for ZO. Fantastic boat still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alvin_Neff Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2013 Nautique CB that is ready to sell!! This metal flake beauty is a skiing machine with only 55 hours!! Cheap sales pitch!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bdecker Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 Club boat is a 2011 LXi, my personal boat is an 05 197, so I have one foot in each camp from a speed control perspective. I thought about Z-box for the MC, but it is a significant upgrade as I'm still running the single display etc.. This boat gets primarily public lake buoys now so the upgrade is less likely now that the club boat is at the "good" ski site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 2009 196. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 2012 MC 190 promo, watching to see what the 2014 brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 7, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted August 7, 2013 2005 Nautique. Perfect Pass. I've given some thought to converting to ZO, but I can't seem to justify the expense. I've also thought seriously about a new or new-ish Carbon Pro, but again the large upgrade cost ($20k-ish) seems to make no sense for a boat that overall is only "just as good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 1976 Mastercraft Stars 'n Stripes (main boat at the lake for vacation) 1995 Mastercraft Prostar 190 (boat for the ski club for course skiing) 1997 Mastercraft prostar 205 (auxiliary boat) All hand drivin boats right now. PP classic soon to be on the 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2010 SN200 OB 5.7L with 800 hours and 2011 SN200 OB 6.0L with 1140 hours. Both going strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 Nautique. But it's on the way out. If anybody is looking for a good used boat pm me. Just over 1000 hours with Stargazer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGray Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 Malibu Response LX. Love the boat. It skies great, drives great and if I could put ZO in it I would in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2005 Malibu Sportster LX. Love this boat, small wake and runs like a clock. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 @JGray, put Zbox in it. I have skied a 2001 RLX (just last night, in fact) with ZBox that feels very, very close to ZO. Only negative is if you have a short setup. The throttle up and settling in is a bit tricky without some room to work with. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bhs Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2000 closed bow CC Ski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lundberg Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 94 Prostar 205 with PPSG, 92 Nautique, and 2000 Sunsetter LXI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jackski Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 95 Malibu Response, Z-box, 340hp built up motor, mostly aluminum, weight drop of 250lb. Great wake and great tracking. Usually pulls best tournament results of the year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2005 Master Craft 197 with Z Box when I'm at home. 2009 Master Craft 197 with Zero Off when I'm skiing with the team at school (University of Iowa, Go Hawks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 @scotchipman My ski buddy put ZO into his 2008 Response LXi. It does require an ECM change. The boat drives and skis great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 1997 Ski Nautique GT-40, Perfect Pass Star Gazer with Z-Box and the newest updated software that inlcudes the new + settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 97 Masters Green SN PP. still IMHO the best wake. And if your a long line skier, none better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller steve77 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 closed bow sn 196...its my first boat that is all mine...and the banks...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Marco Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2001 Malibu Response with Z box right now. Tomorrow, after I have won the $425M Powerball jackpot, I will be ordering my new 2014 Mastercraft, Nautique, Carbon Pro, and Malibu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 1999 RLX. PPSG. If it had ZO I'd keep it for ever. Also ski on a 08 RLXI with ZO. And a 08 MC 197 TT ZO regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 PS-197WTT 2011 Love this boat! Really like the look of the new MC PS 2014 and can't wait to ski and drive one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller evolski Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 1998 Malibu Response LX: both my wife and I run into 38 and we usually match our practice scores in tourn's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Nando Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I knew I was having a good day last Saturday- got in a great early morning set, then my kid and his buddies wanted me to take them skiing- not tubing, not wakeboarding- slalom skiing, Then my wife got in the boat and said, "You know, this is getting kind of dated, I thik it's time to upgrade." So, I get to move up a category or two from my response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller John Brooks Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm curious as I read through the comments in this thread about Perfect Pass and Zero Off. My curiosity is why skiers have a preference over their favorite cruise control system. Personally I went to ZO originally since I wanted to experience the same pull I get in a tournament. After using it for a couple years, I enjoy it's simplicity (I just pick a speed and move on, no adjusting for wind, weight, full moons, ect) and a consistent pull, time after time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 John for me the ZO vs PP is for driving purposes as much as anything. The PP dbw may be better I haven't driven one. ZO you don't have to worry much about the throttle and its really easy to teach a beginner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 I like ZO for the following reasons: The boat is right there for me out of the buoy (C2 setting) and the pull is very consistent Ease of use by the driver - no wind adjust, no weight adjust, no magnets, no throttle finesse Good design, many features for recreational mode and other tailored pull preferences, simple interface Seems like it might have less trouble than servo-based mechanical systems In our ski league we only have two ZO boats and two boats with Zbox. The rest are PerfectPass. I actually struggle going back to PerfectPass now when we use those boats. They are good boats. I just wish they had ZO or Zbox. Before ZO, I had a different boat with StarGazer. But, I never liked it or got it dialed in right. I just used RPM mode. I am very happy with ZO and it is the main reason I bought the boat I have now. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mopowpow Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 2003 196 with Perfectpass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihacker Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 John, I'm probably in the minority these days but for me I do nearly all my skiing behind 3 different pp boats. Once in a while I get a set or 2 behind zo and I lose at least half a pass even after playing around with different settings. I also haven't skiied a tourney in several years. I'm sure if one of the regular boats was zo it may get better for me but for now i'm quite happy with pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted August 7, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted August 7, 2013 @Marco and place each one on its own private lake that you have built. But of course that won't happen....cause I picked the correct numbers. Your invited to ski behind any of them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2009 SN 196. Love this boat. Loved my last one (1999 SN) also, then ZO comes along. I would think about a new one in 3-5years at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2013 2002 Response LX with Stargazer. I ski into 35 off (into 38 once) and ski A2 in tournaments and ski in tournaments about like I ski at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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