Baller disland Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 Why do folks use 12 or 13. Is there an advantage to 12? why not 14?
Baller scuppers Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 I used to use an .880 diameter 11" custom grip and I loved them. I never missed the grab and I felt it concentrated my pulling power. In my last few seasons I went to a small diameter bent handle (US Gear 12"). They are great handles but US Gear is really a challenge to do business with. I do feel the bent handle reduced the elbow pain.
Baller GOODESkier Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 Isn't there something in the rules about 12" for records? I am not up to speed on all that, but I think I heard something to the sort?
Baller_ Wish Posted February 5, 2015 Baller_ Posted February 5, 2015 12" would be a record....damn close anyway. Makes ya wonder if there is a record for diameter.
Baller gregy Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 I went from 13" sraight handle to a 13" bent radius US Gear handle. Best thing I've done for my skiing. Elbow pain is almost total gone. I never mis-grab anymore. Also I never get the blister on my pinky finger were it wedged against the rope.
Baller PatM Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 I went from a 13 back to a 12 when they said all the handle through the neck injuries happen with 13" handles. It took me a set to get use to the 12" again.
Baller Dacon62 Posted February 5, 2015 Baller Posted February 5, 2015 13" bent, straighter arm/wrist alignment then straight handle. Easier on muscles, ligaments. 1.08 dia. Keeps blisters to a minimum for my hand/finger size.
Baller skihard Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 Got my new handle from Brenda at InTow and love it!!!!
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 6, 2015 Baller_ Posted February 6, 2015 As a general rule, if you are a bigger skier with broad shoulders, broad chest and/or big gut, the 13" handle will allow your hands a little more separation and thus allow you to get more torso between your arms and achieve a better "stacked" position. At 6'2, 185 and 43 long jacket, I find a 13 to be too much handle. I use a 1.03 12' radius from In Tow with spectra. On the other hand, like so many other things in skiing, if it is comfortable and works for you, go for it. They make lots of handle variations for just that reason. Lpskier
Baller thager Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 @lpskier 12' radius? You are one wide big dude!!! :) know what you mean. Just kidding.
Baller Ed_Obermeier Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 Years ago I switched to 12" handles after having a series of 13's fold up on me. Damn near didn't get my hand free in time the last time it happened. Years ago, skiing at Matt Rini's old lake near Clearmont he asked me why I was using such a short handle, that it wasn't allowing me to get my shoulders back properly. Told him the story, he suggested the ML Pro series handles with the solid core. Switched back to the ML Pro 13", I like the 13" better and have never had a problem with them.
Baller mwetskier Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 what @Ed_Obermeier said. my chest is way too broad to get between my biceps with a narrow handle and if you cant get your chest between your biceps its pretty much impossible hard to get your shoulders back without really bent arms.
Baller drewski32 Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 I've been on a 13" forever just because of a recomendation that it would be easier to grab. I don't have a very broad chest, and honestly a 12" would probably fit me better.
Baller Edbrazil Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 Noting @Ed_Obermeier commenting about handles 'folding up'. Both AWSA and IWWF have specifications about handle strength, but I wonder if there is any sort of independent testing done these days. Doubtful. Probably that hasn't happened since the days of Jim Sylvester and his testing lab in the 1960's. Additionally, I wonder if any manufacturer makes a handle that not only meets the strength specs. AND also floats.
Baller oldjeep Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 Radar ExtEnd 13" 1.1" diameter straight handle. Love the way the extended ends keep the rope from squeezing me if I only manage to catch it with a couple fingers.
Baller Bulldog Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 13 inch allows better balance for me. "Do Better..."
Baller swc5150 Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 If I don't use a 13", I tend to grab the handle with the edge between my index and middle finger. Not a sufficient grip.
Baller Billbert Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 @oldjeep I tried the Radar ExtEnd Handle last summer. Ours survived about three sets before one of the plastic side pieces tore in two and dumped one of my ski buddy's violently during a hard cut. Messed up his hand pretty bad as the jagged edges ripped through his hands. I promptly returned the remnants for a vapour handle and haven't looked back. Mine may have been the abnormality but I would recommend careful inspection of yours before each use.
Baller oldjeep Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 @Bilbert - had mine for 2 seasons so far. Getting close to needing to replace the grip.
Baller estrom Posted February 6, 2015 Baller Posted February 6, 2015 I never paid attention to this until I ordered a Radar radius handle and rope. Turns out I've been using 12" handles my whole life and don't like this 13". It's new and never used if anyone wants to throw me a couple bones for it. Otherwise it'll go on ebay in the spring.
Baller_ lpskier Posted February 7, 2015 Baller_ Posted February 7, 2015 One thing I have noticed about handles: using an In Tow with 41 Tail gloves, I get almost a full season out of my gloves and two or even three out of my handle. I don't mean to knock Masterline and frankly I haven't used their gear in a while so maybe it has changed, but when I used a ML handle (top of the line, whatever it was called) and the kevlar K Palms, I would go through two or three pairs of gloves and a handle every season. On the other hand Russ would restring the handle and turn it over for less than like $20 so it really was a two year handle, but when I switched to a radius (bent) handle to take stress off my elbow) that option went out the door. Lpskier
Baller rodecon Posted February 7, 2015 Baller Posted February 7, 2015 13", I have really big hands, so the extra room is nice
Baller smalor Posted February 7, 2015 Baller Posted February 7, 2015 Using Masterline rope and handle....41 tail gloves.....very pleased with both
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