Administrators Horton Posted September 21, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2015 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted September 21, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 21, 2015 That he is about to drop the hammer down after a delayed turn? Or someone flipped the photo and that's ball six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 mass moving forward in direction of travel, balanced over center of ski; stacked offside finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lakeaustinskier Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted September 21, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 21, 2015 Always wear a hair bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 Big spray rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 You can guess/assume too much from one shot. Sequence would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 21, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2015 What I see is a skier who is patient out of the turn, who has allowed the ski to travel longer in the turn so as to set a more aggressive ski angle out of the buoy, but knows that with this finish, no excess lean/leverage on the boat is necessary. I have noticed this from time to time that many top level skiers just don't look like they are always having to lean super hard. It seems to me that when the skier is stacked and has set the most efficient path out of the buoy, the skier needs to only "ride" the line across to the other side. I think this is also the case for a skier who maintains speed through the turn. Skiers who had to excessively shut down a ski coming into a buoy will tend to need to overly accelerate out of it. Thus, maintaining speed through the turn means less acceleration needed out of it. I would guess that Freddie came into that turn with optimal speed, maintained that speed throughout, was patient and stayed in the turn longer, set an efficient cross course heading for that ski to take and thus, didn't need to force excessive lean on the boat/rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I see one of few people who can muscle their way through 39 if they make a mistake. Extremely talented and I can't wait to see how his career develops in the next decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 Think I remember this one... A little narrow with some slack at 1 but let the line tighten then pointed the ski across course and crushed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 22, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm honestly not sure what the message is but he was not late. This was Freddie skiing calmly an easy pass. Maybe it's just a strange picture but it sure seems to me that he is moving way in from the ball line before he adds load. 50 50 chance he will see this and proclaim I have no idea what I'm talking about Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 That's a text book Jodi stance. Stacked and hips aligned perpendicular to the ski. Direction set, Ready to take the load and Rocket to the other side of the wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 Still frames are funny...one frame later my guess is he's stacked, loaded and gone with proper angle and lean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MarkM Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 It's his opener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I see an MC ski and I want a turn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 On what Horton mentioned. A mantra I have heard from CP is "no backsiding buoys" on your early passes. I forget this most of the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I agree with @6balls my guess is the next frame has the ski with the turn completed and he is stacked and ready to rip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 To me it looks like he has his arms pulled in to his chest - not yet down to his hips for a great stack. At first I thought slack line management - BUT - the rope is taught (at least what we can see) in the picture. So, it seems that this is that out of the turn - transition into lean picture. One of those pictures that captures a moment - so maybe this is between the finish of the turn and the handle to the hip with proper alignment and stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 22, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon of a few others so far and say: The lesson of this freeze-frame is that freeze-frames don't offer clear lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 First of all I do not see the point at all, all I do see is how calm and relaxed Freddie is at this point, he is not trying to put the Hammer down, the other thing that stands out for me is that Freddie is not looking across the lake, like a lot of skiers, not sure if he is looking at the pole or ahead of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dthate Posted September 22, 2015 Members Share Posted September 22, 2015 It looks the opposite of that photo a few weeks ago where his back side was in the water at nearly the same place in the course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Booze Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 It's interesting to see how his ski is aligned more cross-course and planted, than what his body alignment would suggest. (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GOODESkier Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 @MrJones can you speak more about CP and not backsiding the balls on earlier/easier passes? Anyone else able to say more on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I got to watch him from the boat a few times. Super nice guy. He was awesome on 2/4 and the turns on 1/3 were not always as clean. It looked like he just needed to get used to the colder water and shallow lake to dial-in that offside turn. In the last round against Nate he was looking really good. His one balls at 39 and 41 were awesome. What I learned was to be really patient even when things don't go exactly as planned. He looked solid all weekend and deserved to be in the final with Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Broussard Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 He should be used to shallow water. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I don't like stills because that moment lasted less than one tenth of a second. However, I see a guy who is on top of his ski and balanced with head and shoulders level. Good. Also, as it relates to adding load, I don't think the best skiers add load. They turn their ski, maintain their position, and let the boat pull them down the course. In other words, they create direction, the boat creates the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 Oooh! I may have to steal this one... they create direction, the boat creates the load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Skier Freddie Winter Posted September 22, 2015 Elite Skier Share Posted September 22, 2015 Honestly, I saw this picture originally, before it being posted here and was a little confused. Everything you guys have said about creating direction without unnecessary load is exactly what I like to do but I'm not sure this is it. The honest truth is that the ski I'm on is a little different to my old one (Boris is always developing) and I'd been on it only for 6 sets before the weekend. While I know the ski is superior to what I had before I still haven't worked it out fully, especially on my offside, as @bishop8950 said. This photo is just me having the ski a little behind me. I guess it was good I didn't start leaning hard or I'd have fallen pretty badly. I had to make a decision on which ski to take this weekend and felt that the new one would suit me better even after only a few sets. I felt better every round as I got more and more confident on it and towards the end was really starting to get great angle both ways. The ski surprised me a few times with how much angle it generated without any effort on a few occasions. A bit more familiarity and I'll be doing well I think. On another note I love it how this photo has been posted and no one has noticed in any of the otitis I'm wearing brand different gloves on each hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 22, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2015 @FWinter You don't wear matching socks. Why would you wear matching gloves? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 Guess the lesson is not to uses a new ski in a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 If I could run 3 at 41 I'd ski on a new ski at a tournament, but that hasn't been my experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 @Razorskier1 Yeah I was thinking, if only two guys on the whole planet out ski you. Skiing on a new ski in a tournament was not a bad choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 You do realize he finished second only to Nate so hard to say he made a bad choice with his ski. The top pros know exactly how to make these decisions and the criteria may be different than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 @bishop8950 - I totally agree! I was just sad because I tried that last fall and it was not a good choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm waiting for someone here to theorize that Freddie is wearing different gloves to try and balance his offside against his onside lean. @Horton I think you need to Panda yourself for even posting this picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bill22 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 @bishop8950 I agree 100%. My comment was to gregy. But my mistake I looked at the podium pic and thought Freddy got 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 24, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted September 24, 2015 different brand gloves == twice the sponsorship! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted September 24, 2015 Supporting Member Share Posted September 24, 2015 Btw, @FWinter, wth does otitis (ear infection) have to do with this? Is that British slang for something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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