Baller jbwann Posted April 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted April 27, 2020 Thank you so much for the feeback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stathis Ventouris Posted May 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted May 18, 2020 Guys has anybody tried the fin on an XTR or XTRCC? If yes can you share settings (with slot caliper or normal, jaws or tips, caliper) vs standard fin and how did it feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stathis Ventouris Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Bruce_Butterfield still using the fin on the XT? Standard settings or alternative (1 or 2) and if yes, what are your current settings with the CG fin and how has changed/improved the attributes of the ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 2, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Stathis Ventouris I’m on a 9970cc and haven’t tried the xtr. On the 9970 w std fin, the offside preturn and turn were great, but onside it turned downcourse and not as smooth. The CG completely fixed the onside turn and maybe improved offside just a little. I only played with dft going back 0.050” then 0.030” from goode recommenced dft. I haven’t felt the need for further adjustments as the ski is working really well with these settings. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 Hey @Bruce_Butterfield Did you put CG at your previous settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Bruce_Butterfield Other than the DFT adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 2, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 2, 2020 Yes within a few thou of Goode’s recommendation If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Bruce_Butterfield I have a 68.5 LFF flex 3 9970cc. Absolutely love it with stock fin but I have a CG I’d like to try after my tournament in a few weeks. Do you mind telling me your fin numbers and boots. I tried it in my Revolution but I couldn’t get fin clamp to hold fin tight. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 2, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 2, 2020 @mbabiash I’m on the 68.5” with: 29.75 6.832 2.489 0.703 7 deg The Goode fin is 0.095” thick while the CG is 0.085”. I removed the set screws, put in the CG and re-taped the set screw holes. I think the tap is 1/4-24 but not positive. Without re-taping, when you tighten the clamp you are clamping the set screws instead of the fin and it can definitely move. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 Tried the cg fin in my HO Omega this morning. I was quite satisfied with the way the ski rode in all aspects with the OEM fin but was curious. Set DFT minus 0.020 for starters with same on L & D. I was quite surprised how little the ski changed compared to other skis I have tried with the fin. Preturns on both sides became a bit less sensitive to body position and the ski follows thru the turn with less tip rise. Wake crossings felt very similar. Used the standard wing @ 9 deg. Basically it polished an already sweet riding ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stathis Ventouris Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Bruce_Butterfield thanks for the input, however I am somewhat confused settings for the 9970cc are 6,780, 2.485 and 0,735 looks like you have altered all three settings, length and DFT substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stefan Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Stathis Ventouris Goode might have changed the factory settings just recently. I just saw they changed the ones for the RéVOcc from long/shallow to short/deep and didn't even keep the old ones as alternative settings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stefan Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 @mbabiash You could use this type of tape tape as shim on both sides of the CG fin, should make it roughly same tickness as the Goode one; https://www.amazon.co.uk/PROtect-Chafe-Tape-51mm-Clear/dp/B00NMJ5EMU/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&qid=1591128120&sr=8-6&srs=5324286031 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted June 2, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted June 2, 2020 @Stathis Ventouris Goode measures length differently than the rest of the world. The “factory” length of 6.780 is with calipers flat, gauge toward the front of the ski. There can be considerable variation in this measurement depending on brand of caliper used. Nearly everyone else uses the “tips” measurement. The fin was set at “factory” when i got it. With my calipers in the goode method, L was 6.777, with tips L was 6.836, so that is the factory length measured the way most skiers measure. So my CG setup compared to factory is: L 0.004” shorter D 0.004” deeper DFT 0.032” back I consider variations of a few thousandths insignificant. A typical adjustment for me will be 0.020 to 0.030”. 5-10 thou is fine tuning. Less than 5 has a smaller effect than my day to day, or buoy to buoy variation. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted June 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 2, 2020 Thanks @Bruce_Butterfield I’ll give those a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller keithh2oskier Posted June 30, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2020 @jbwann did you ever try this fin with your nano XT? If so what were your thoughts and numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted June 30, 2020 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2020 Tried the CG fin on my ION yesterday per BBs suggestion it felt really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted July 6, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2020 @AdamCord @adamhcaldwell current Senate settings 2.495 6.865 0.765 dtf 9 degrees lff any guidance on a starting set up please 2020 pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stathis Ventouris Posted July 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2020 @Bruce_Butterfield I am riding a GOODE since the 9100 introduction with two exceptions (small intervals that I rode a Fisher and an SP), thus I have a slot caliper and measure my length and DFT accordingly. Can you please give us feedback/comparison of the XT vs the 9970? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stathis Ventouris Posted July 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2020 @AdamCord a friend of mine just got his CG fin (black), I have noticed that is somewhat different than the silver one I have. Can you comment on the changes and performance attributes of the 'upgraded' version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted July 7, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted July 7, 2020 @Stathis Ventouris I rode many of the early Goode's for probably a dozen years, but the last one I used before trying the 9970 was the Nano One, so I don't have any info on the XT. I still have a love/hate relationship with all the Goode's I've used. They are awesome when setup properly and I am doing everything right, but performance falls off a cliff if setup is off just a little. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted July 7, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2020 Hi @Stathis Ventouris there are no performance differences, we just made some tweaks to the shape to make it more universal and fit in all the different fin blocks that are out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted July 23, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 23, 2020 @adamcord did you by chance increase the tail tab so the dft set screw will work on certain fin blocks, ie I have to tap tap the fin into dft position as the tail tab is too deep in the block to allow use of the set screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller paul413ski Posted July 26, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks to @mje sent me a starting set up for my Senate with a bit of tweaking with @ mje,s support things are going in the right direction Swapped the CG in took the Whisper out liking the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted July 27, 2020 Baller Share Posted July 27, 2020 @tjm no if we do that it doesn’t fit at all on some of the other blocks out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ryota Posted September 2, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 2, 2020 Does anyone riding 2020 or 2021 Vapor PB with CG fin? and have numbers?? I am thinking to get one for my new 2021 Vapor. @AdamCord Can you Ship the fin to Japan?? I'd like to know how much the shipping cost will be??? Thankyou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted September 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 4, 2020 @Ryota we can ship anywhere except Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted September 4, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted September 4, 2020 @AdamCord - according to Elon Musk, soon. Returns will still be a problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 Skied an HO Omega last night with stock fin settings. Planning to drop a CG fin on it this weekend and try to dial some settings in as the owner of the ski has been struggling on it. Anyone have a good start point they're using currently? Really felt like the fin needed to be shorter, but couldn't get below 6.800 without grinding. FWIW, The couple adjustments I did make to get past 32 off with the stock fin landed me at .700, 6.800, 2.540, 8deg. Started out at 6.870, 2.51, .810. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 HO Omega - 67 inch ski - Dbl Radar Vapors - LFF My starting point with the CG Fin in 54 deg water - flat wing 2.475 6.928 0.775 9.5 30.000 17.500 Depth Length DFT Wing Fnt Boot Rear Boot Current settings at 69 deg water temp - s wing (by far the best so far) 2.425 7.016 0.820 8.0 30.500 18.000 Depth Length DFT Wing Fnt Boot Rear Boot Grinding / modifying the CG Fin was required to get these settings. Modified a set screw to be able to set DFT. 100 percent worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 @S1, Have you run any deep/short settings on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 @adamhcaldwell Just the OEM settings on the first few rides but they are not all that short deep so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 @adamhcaldwell Its working so well I have not made any real changes for months. This is NOT typical for me. I dont want to ruin a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted September 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2020 @adamhcaldwell My appologizies. I copied the current settings from the C 65 tab in error, Here are the current settings for the Omega = CG fin combo. 2.475 6.933 0.726 8.0 30.000 17.500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted October 13, 2020 Baller Share Posted October 13, 2020 @adamhcaldwell Would like to here some feedback on your findings with the Omega / CG combo? Especially if you had success with short deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted November 18, 2020 Baller Share Posted November 18, 2020 CG FIN SALE!! $75 off We had a batch of fins come in late due to Covid delays, so we are offering them at a discount for a limited time. This applies to CG fins and CG Classic Fins Use promo code CGSALE to get $75 off at https://denaliskis.com/collections/fins-wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pullhard Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Looks a lot like the CNC cut Schnitz fin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted November 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2020 If pictures are easier...... Use promo code CGSALE to get $75 off at https://denaliskis.com/collections/fins-wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller S1Pitts Posted November 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2020 @adamhcaldwell Is there any difference between these black fins and the earlier silver fins other than the color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted November 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2020 @S1Pitts We made a small tweak to the cutouts in the top to allow for a slightly larger range of movements, but in terms of the whetted running area of the fin, they are the same as the originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ali Posted November 19, 2020 Baller Share Posted November 19, 2020 that's a great deal, just in time for holiday season :smiley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Adam Caldwell Posted December 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2020 Who out there is running the CG fin at 36mph on a Goode?? Anyone??? Bueler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted December 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2020 @adamhcaldwell nobody skis 36mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2020 @AdamCord Ha. 6 more years at it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Hockdog Posted December 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2020 36 is scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted December 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2020 This thread is almost at 100K views @Horton is going to be looking for his BOOZE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted December 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2020 @MichaelGoodman Ah crap everyone look away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted December 6, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted December 6, 2020 Didn’t @Horton give a case of Scotch to Rossi and Trent when the vapor thread hit 100k? Seems like A^2 should start choosing the 20yr single malts. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller AdamCord Posted December 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2020 Bump There's still time to get the perfect stocking stuffer before Christmas at a discounted price! Maybe we should start sending it with some scotch...that would make it a better stocking stuffer. Use promo code CGSALE to get $75 off at https://denaliskis.com/collections/fins-wings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 16, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted December 16, 2020 single malt? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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