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My ski partner broke a 2017 Radar between the bindings and it was out of warranty. Radar sent him a demo ski as a replacement which is pretty good customer service. He didn't want to ski it so I did and love the ski. Because of ski age I upgraded to the 22 model and it just is really different from the 2017 and does not suit my style. Bought it at Worlds and is for sale if anyone is interested. Back on the 2017

Going to be chilly, supposed to get down to low to mid 50's

Decided the ski is not for me, so it's for sale, $1600.00 delivered in US

Skied 4th set this morning and still not getting it to turn on both sides. 67inch, binding 29.75, length 6.850,depth 2.476, D/T .760 Went with a smaller wing(8 degrees) because I felt the pull out glide wasn't there. Suggestions? 3 of the 4 sets were in fairly strong cross winds and chop, so maybe just need more sets. Usually when I get on a new ski one side works fairly well and tweak the other. My 2017 just worked from day one.

@lpskier : We disagree and if you read the article there are lawyers suing Safe Sport who believe due process is not taking place, so I'm not the only one. Here is a case study since there is no time limit. Another coach was accused of sexual misconduct 50 years ago, and he was suspended. It's simply on word against another. https://athletesforequity.org/safesport-case-study-scenario/

Taking my 3rd set tomorrow on the 22 vapor. Had a little trouble getting it to turn tighter on both sides. Stock settings from web site. Might take a few thousands off depth or move fin forward, probably depth first.

@JackQ ,I believe he's talking about Safe sport, they can be held accountable. There are law suits against them for violation of due process. You're probably right regarding awsa. It's their club, their rules.

@unksskis ,what are you talking about?

@buechsr : What I don't like is suspending the athlete before the facts come out. Many of these athletes have limited opportunities to participate. We don't put people in jail till we prove their innocence. We shouldn't suspend someone until they are proven guilty, that's my beef. By temporarily suspending him before the fact finding is depriving him due process which means the athlete cannot compete till resolved. I understand and sympathize with your feelings, we just don't agree with the process. This isn't the NFL where you collect a pay check while suspended. We have a right to confront our accuser, not with safe sport. There is no time limit, are we to go back 15 yrs, how about 30 yrs?, and I believe that some arbitrator should not have the sole power to make the decision. Here is a quote from the article: Although Klein and Estey disagree on the exact nature of SafeSport's perceived inadequacy, they agree that proceedings related to SafeSport issues should be handled by law enforcement and in a court of law. Please read the whole article, many of my objections are in the article. Believe me, I am totally in when it comes to protection of our kids, but not at the expense of trashing due process. Look at what's happening in our education institutions. There are those who insist on 20 or more pronouns for gender. It can be considered a hate crime at some universities if the proper pronoun is not used. Imagine being at a athletic event, and some one files a hate speech complaint to safe sport over pronoun gender. Think it can't happen, it already is at schools. Safe sport has nothing to do with me or has no influence on my decision not to join AWSA. That ship sailed years ago and there are others in this conversation who have also stated those same reasons. It's simple, want to ski, take the class. I'm not advocating one way or the other, your choice. Just wonder what the next thing is coming down the line. Someone mentioned get the jab or no ski, wonder what would happen then?

@buechsr : I didn't post the article to debate his guilt or innocence, I posted it because of the way it was handled. You and I disagree on procedure for this, and that's fine, but once we make an accusation that comes out on page one it gets redacted on page 33 where no one sees it. I'm not the only one who has problems with the process of determining guilt, apparently many lawyers feel the same way. It's very hard to rebuild a reputation. Ask a teacher who has been accused of misbehavior when nothing really happened. Here is a good article to read on Safe Sport:https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/three-years-center-safesport-faces-controversy

@bigtex2011 : Calling you an as is probably a compliment! You made it personal, so expect a personal response.

@buechsr First of all, not my article, it was taken form the Fox news channel. I didn't post the article to cast judgment one way or another on this individual, that will come out later. I do take issue with guilty till proven innocent. You are wrong on the newspaper article, his quote: (This involves something from 15 years ago that someone sent them a press clipping of. Something that I was not found guilty of,” Morris said. “I said I was innocent from the beginning. I have no legal restrictions against me.) I can assume "them" is Safe Sport. I do have a problem with standards different than a court room, and we have to look no farther than the allegations on various issues during the bummer presidency. How many times did he have to eat his words by jumping to conclusions( remember the NC students). We are a nation of laws and it's being attacked on a daily basis. It's real easy to react to a 15 yo clip, yet totally screw up the gymnasts who complained for years, I'd hardly say they are doing their job. You darn better have proof of misconduct before you stop people from making a living, or face the legal consequences.

@bigtex2011 What an asinine and ignorant statement! First of all the article was simply given to show how Safe Sport handles complaints. What's the bomb shell? Most of us, except for the ignorant, believe in due process, innocent till proven guilty! I certainly don't have to be a member of any organization to make comments about it. So you are so high and mighty that you can't respect the comments of many previous members who have seen it all? I was in the organization for almost 30 years, and you really think this one issue keeps me from rejoining? So if @The_MS ms doesn't renew his membership you are going to tell him to shut up? We are living in a "cancel" culture where people are being judged or dismissed or found guilty only to be found not guilty later on as facts come out. NO WHERE did I say imply or say for anyone to not take the class, I could care less. Telling me to shut up is equivalent to telling a veteran of world war 2 to not make a comment about war in Afghanistan because he's not in the military any more. Try thinking before you open your mouth next time!

@dthate : Isolated, you have evidence about that? Isolated or not, it's wrong! It's hard to repair a reputation.

I saw an article a few days ago about a cyclist named Scott Morris who was banned from competing by Safe Sport until more investigation. Some one sent in a 15 yo article about where he is accused of sexual misconduct. I won't paraphrase, please read the article. What really bothers me is that we are supposed to be in this country, innocent until proven guilty, except when it comes from Safe Sport. This leaves open the door for anyone who has a beef with you to make an accusation and get you immediately sanctioned. With over 23 pages in this thread, I apologize if this was mentioned earlier. Here is the link, please take the time to read the whole thing. https://www.velonews.com/news/road/scott-morris-responds-to-safesport-suspension-and-usa-crits-departure/

@BraceMaker , the ski he's pictured with says Goode.

@dchristman, looks like front is rotated, not mounted evenly to one side. I think he has some kind of hybrid Goode. It probably wouldn't have made a difference. When I took the ski back the company thanked me because it alerted them to a potential manufacturing problem.

Congrats to Freddie Kruger also, 3rd place ,a half meter out of 2nd!

Thanks

@Horton, yes, I did listen to the video, just mislabeled it. I like a video as I like to see how the ski comes around, tip up or down, etc. You've put ski videos of other skis, just wanted to know if you posted one.

@Horton, I meant a skiing video, not the unboxing

@Horton : Was there a video, if so, couldn't find it.

Took it back, exchanged, no problem

@dave2ball : I used a caliper to measure and there is a little over a 1/16 to one side, not enough play in plate. I'll take it back, I'm sure they will give me another one.

@wawaskr : Have to also consider if I don't like the ski and go to sell it. New buyer may notice it and think he got stiffed. I think when one spends close to two grand for a ski it should be right, but don't want to be a whiner either.