Stevie Boy

Well we can either be like an ostrich and bury our heads in the sand or we can embrace technology and move with the times, that will allow the sport to get more TV coverage, keeping the sport alive, fact is nobody likes change, people can still operate boats but we have to find a way of making the time needed on the water more affordable not just a sport for youngsters with wealthy parents, Just think how getting the sport into the Olympics would raise the profile and generate interest, just think of the excitement in seeing how far somebody can go without stopping at each end. It would add excitement for the public because competitions would move along much faster. Waterskiing is not about riding about in the Boat, waterskiing is about individual goals and challenges, I dont go to the lake to ride in the boat ,I go to Ski, I go to claim, just one more of those orange things that you see in the water when you ride up and down in the Boat. As far as I am concerned the boat is just a tool to pull me up and down the lake, so I can try to acheive my personal goal whilst on a waterski. Guy,s & Gals, No Offence Meant, just my opinion.

The first comment on this thread says it all, Money,Money, Money, price of memberships + tows or just paying for tows with no membership, given the time needed on the water, it all adds up to lots of WONGA ! The only way round it is not cable skiing, but there is another concept, I remember years ago in one of the waterski mags the idea of a tower running on tracks that not only rotates at the end of the lake, but the speed or line lenght can be changed as the tower rotates, it was driven hydraulically or electrically, reducing cost in comparison to a boat, the other advantage with such a system is that there is no question about whether the boat was straight or not, which kills one of the arguments for not having waterskiing in the olympics as the conditions and path of tow are the same for everybody.

Would be nice to see some footage from the bank or boat, to see how the ski rides. Still got my cheque book at the ready, who,s gonna be the first to have them on sale. Performance Ski and Surf, or is there other sources that get there first.

Hi Richard, not sure of the make I brought it off of ebay for little money, if you do get one, go easy do not fully invert straight away, start off with around 45 degrees, slowly move around a bit its not recommended to just hang for long periods, try laying on the floor arms out like a crucifix, bring your knees up and rotate both knees together to the left 20 times and then to the right, try and keep your arms and shoulders flat on the floor, this should release the small muscles close to the spine that have tightened up (popping or clunking when releasing) this should help release tension in the sacro-illiac ( I,m not a doctor but I continue this exercise everyday and especially after skiing . it has helped me) The other thing that helped me was changing my deep water start, two feet in I used reach forward to the front of the ski ( which overstretch my lower back) and pull my hips forward once the ski was on the water, my method now is to bend my knees place my hands level with them, keep my back straight, and let the boat pull me onto the water and then stand, pretty basic stuff but it takes the strain away from the sacro-illiac. Hope some of this maybe of some help, I know how frustrating it can be, for me it was particulary awkward to get position and take the load on the offside. Regards Stevie BoyÂ

Auskier Ref: your sacro-illiac I suffered for three years prevents you from skiing properly, cured it with really good acupuncture and inversion table, worked for me. Regards

Final comment from me, I agree with Richarddoane waterskiing is a dangerous sport and the warnings are clearly stated when purchasing equipment. Boat, Bouys, Ropes, Handles, Skis, Bindings and Human Error.  If you do not want to get hurt "STAY ON THE DOCK"  Oh! and by the way, the "DOCK IS FOR PUSSIES" Â

Bindings are a Individual thing, they all have their Pros & Cons, the correct fitment is probably the most important thing ( I see People heaving on that lace to get it just a bit tighter ) and that is down to the indvidual who is using it. Had a couple of skiing buddies break their ankles in the last six weeks, both were bounced off the bouy, much the same as OTF if you are not in the right place or in good shape "GIVE IT UP ! " the most you are going to gain is maybe 1 1/2 bouys before its over anyway, I used to take the hits but as I got older ,I got wiser, there are "Bold Skiers" and "Old Skiers" but no "Bold Old Skiers"

Have Faith, I still have my cheque book at the ready, sounds like a bargain !

Thanks for the info sixam675, I have been looking for a replacement for my 66" sixam 2,for some time now, I know there was a bit of an error with the sixam 2 as it was not supposed to be as wide as it was, think there was a mix up on the CAD side of things, but never the less, it turned out to be a good ski, that also had a larger surface area than the 67" sixam, I worked out the surface area of my 66" Sixam 2 and it had the same surface area as the 64" goode wideride, I am thinking that the 66" Quattro will be just what I am looking for, and the bonus is being able to bolt bindings to the ski in the normal fashion. I have my slot caliper at the ready. LOL

41 off, Sounds right up my street, I know numbers are a personal thing & they are still playing around with the ski development, but do you have any numbers at this moment in time. so I can make a note.

Hey bxroads, I used to do that a lot, not much fun whern you have spent much wonga on a brand new ski, stand up through to the finish of the turn, it won,t happen again, best bit of advice I ever got. "The moment you edge change that is the finish of your turn"Â just ride the ski and hook up at the end.Â

Many Thanks 41 off, what size ski are you on, and whats your weight range, I ski @55kph, are you liking it lots.

Thanks Ed, I am ouzing with anticipation, I have my cheque book at the ready, just hope they give more guidance on weight /ski size , binding placement, settings etc. Just feel they have lacked in that department in the past. But this forum is great for sharing infomation, great people on here willing to help.

Anymore on the O,Brien Quattro, all gone quite, would like to know when it,s going to be available. Anybody in the know.

Regards the Quattro, anybody got any sizes and weight range for each size. after my initial reaction I am warming to the idea of a RTM ski that might have something to offer the 34mph skier. The Quattro look, does have a strange appeal. Â

That looks one ugly ski, but hey, whos looks at it when your skiing !Â

I am trying to understand the manafacturing of these skis, my source informed me that they like the RTM method because they could get the fex pattern much the same every time, by not using that method for the other skis, have they improved the manafacturing process, I remember watching Glenn Campbell at the Pro Am one year trying five skis on his flex machine trying to find the best one. So we have got the Alpha, Quattro & Endo which one is the one with the Wider Forebody and which one is the Mid Ride ?

NP got the message !

Any news on the NEW O'Brien, it,s out of the mould ,I wonder who gets to try it first !

Just an add on, to explain my reasoning, with the boat in motion the arc of the line will flatten off after the center line, so when you release and counter rotate, the idea is that you maintain the arc of the line as if it was stationary, maximising width.

Try looking at the direction/course of the line/handle after the center line, understanding that is the key, transition at the center line , ride the ski down the handle path, release, counter rotate allowing the ski to move outbound and back in around the bouy, if you look most make a transition around the centerline and ride the ski out they do not continue outbound on the back edge , its the acceleration from the bouy to the first wake, that gives them time. Just my thoughts and observation, could be right or could be wrong ?

I asked that question, and Paul Crawford from D3 replied "The surface area does not realyl come into it, its how the ski is designed"Â I guess he,s right when you stop & think about it, what is the actual area of the ski that you ski on at any one time, certainly not all of it. I,m no ski manafacturing expert, but he has got a point.

John Boy, Second Pass was real sweet, what ski are you riding ? got some settings ?

Does it matter as long as you get the job done, everybody ski,s different, I know a guy who has the most appalling style and looks horrendous on the water, and gets away with it, but he score,s 4 to 5 @ 38 off on a regular basis, if you are 6 years old then I guess you could be schooled to ski a pacicfic style, can you really teach an old dog new tricks ?

I have been communicating with karen@goode.com and mary@goode.com, I believe Karen is the boss lady, however both have been very helpful and responsive, communications have been impressive, I would like to take this opportunity to thank them.