Wish

I suspect she could have run that by the looks of it. I think she alluded to that very sentiment after. Obviously capable. GOAT.

Best binding release is one not used very often or not at all by utilizing what’s between your ears. As @Than_Bogansays, he only takes a bad crash once a year on average. Same for me. That’s him skiing smart and knowing his limits. Age is a limit, skill is a limit ,how you physically and mentally feel that set is a limit and so on. Non of us on here are Freddy Winter accept FW. But even he knows his limits …ESPECIALLY in practice. My limit…if 35 does not feel really good, not shortening to 38. Why would I. I have nothing to prove accept to myself. So my biggest suggesting for @branborambo binding questions is to know your limits every set and ski accordingly. Won’t say what brands are safe or not. Will say in a crash BOTH feet better stay attached to the ski or BOTH feet better come out at the or close to the exact same time. Mixing diff styles of double boots seems to go against that. As does a toe kick with a front boot that’s set to tight be it a mechanical release, lace or rubber.

Seems to be a loooot of used Vapors up for sale in recent days on SIA. Six since Sep 10th . Fourteen since Sep 1.

Well, maybe they will see success and produce aftermarket blocks. How many diff hole patters are there for the various manufacturers?

@gavski YEEEEASS!!!! Let me know when u bring this to the US. I will help where I can. @kmenard Exactly !! I don’t think you can have both. +1 to when other festivals are happening near any usable body of water.

MasterCraft for slower speeds and longer lines all the way back to 2014.

Videos of the one that was done were pretty cool to watch. Joe public just sees the walls of water going up one after another ..till one stops and the other keeps going.

I like it !! Once again a company thinking outside the box. Bravo Connelly bravo 👏

There is a thread on the folks that put on the duel slalom course tournament. Video and all. Their plan was to expand to more sites (possibly US) but that may have been pre COVID.

Side by side for the Joe public is the only way to get their interest. He who falls or misses first loses..no simpler way. Would be crappy conditions most likely on bigger lakes. But the “tour” has to decide. Ski in sub par conditions like the days of Hot Summer Nights and breing in crowds, skiers and sponsors that understand it’s a show. Or keep it elite and all about world records. Personally I don’t care anymore. With TWBC I get front row seats to the best show on town.

Another example of how to get into this sport for not much scratch. Great boat and this one is a head turner. $5k

If it’s really functional, I hope the come out with an aftermarket version. I’d be interested. And they get to sell more product.

🤔 So theoretically, you could reach down and adjust a fin as needed between passes. Interesting

Thought there was a rule that fins could not be adjusted between passes at a tournament? Had to be a fixed wing/fin? Wasn’t this one/kind not allowed??

“Good with the handle past centerline”. What does that mean to you @Horton?? To me it’s super hard to do anything with the handle if you are separating from it of CL. That’s a result of previous moves/techniques in the pass. To achieve it, you have to understand what allows for it to even happen. As mentioned Joel looks to have little load in those pics (no idea what line length but guessing an early one) allowing him to maintain that connection.

Not what you are looking for but the biggest difference I saw was in and out of the turn where the ski was far more still and evenly planed with no significant over or under turn compared to anyone else's. I attribute that to the boot. Very little fine motor muscle movements of lower leg (ankle/foot) gets transferred to the ski. Weight shifting center of mass seems to be dampened as well by the inability to flex the front ankle a great deal either by intention or by accident. He's, for lack of better terms, stuck overtop of the ski and in the right place. The only thing I see from the string of pics above is his elbows are welded to his sides. Which tells me he is following the handle path very well as keeping them there does not look physically demanding in the pics.

So the only thing I noticed was the mic volume difference. Brian D was much louder than anyone on the other mic. Had to keep turning it up and then back down and then up again. Just something for next years event to monitor. Otherwise as mentioned in the other thread, my wife and I enjoyed the webcast. 👍

Another thanks to Kelvin. I was able to watch live pro skiing from 2800 miles away and enjoy every mn. And unlike some others, my wife was next to me enjoying it as well. Her ONLY gripe over hours and hours of watching was Brian calling 39 off “easy” at one point. Being that’s all she could say negatively says everything about the web cast. Well done 🎤drop

Nate = 200 41s Ragina = ??? 39s

@Drago same…bolted my hard shells to the ski for decades..no leg or foot injurys. Harsh ..maybe.. but it bugs me that the automatic go to opinion on something different is…well that can’t be safe. I swear every tournament I went to someone would…as politely as they could…tell me I was nuts.

I have to agree with @wilyle ..snow ski bindings are multi directional in their release and the amount of release tension can be set. I am a huge fan of the MOB binding system for that reason. Smart design. I also know that I'd rather crash on water at 50mph with one ski on then crash down a mountain at 50mph with two. I love innovation. Without it we would not have half the cool stuff we have now. I'm sure there has been plenty of test dummy's over the decades trying out new stuff at high risk. I applaud Joel. I hope in some way his thought process and theory works its way into some cool design we all may benefit from. But haters with be haters.

Someone needs to jump on this one … https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/781907033939786/

Wasn’t there, can’t say how it happened but if memory serves it was not his knee or ankle. So to me that style boot pushes all the load up past the delicate ankle bones and into some pretty hefty bones. If both boots were the same, that would mean any twisting would be transferred to the hips as the 2 legs would be as one bolted to the ski…even harder to break something. Now two vastly diff boots with diff load breaking points is not cool in my book. That goes for hard shell front (reflex) and rubber boot in the back (willeys). To me they will eject at diff loads and diff times. Safest in my head is both feet stay in always or both come out close to if not at the same time. I skied double hard shells bolted to ski for decades with gnarly falls and never had a leg injury but did get scorpioned in the back by the ski once..that was bad. No 100% safe system but there are ones better than others IMHO. I don’t see Joel’s as safe but that’s not because he uses a snow ski boot. It’s because he doesn’t use 2.