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@MattP appreciate the info. I was always taught to measure from the tail of the ski to the point on the HEEL of the binding which sticks out the furthest towards the tail of the ski (April Coble). But then again I'm still a rookie at all this :)

@AB I'm pretty sure the only thing I understand about those numbers is the "Binding 30"" Correct me if I'm wrong but are you referring to the distance from the heel of the front boot to the tail of the ski? Obviously I'm going to need some hands on training to understand the other numbers.

@AB I'm pretty sure the only thing I understand about those numbers is the "Binding 30"" Correct me if I'm wrong but are you referring to the distance from the heel of the front boot to the tail of the ski? Obviously I'm going to need some hands on training to understand the other numbers.

Good stuff everyone. Thanks and keep it up. Very informative. Starting to wonder if I'm more confused now or before..

Good stuff everyone. Thanks and keep it up. Very informative. Starting to wonder if I'm more confused now or before..

@Andy , 67 " no idea on the numbers. Suggestions and explanations of the numbers please?

@Andy , 67 " no idea on the numbers. Suggestions and explanations of the numbers please?

Noob question here. What are all the parts of a Ski? I know what bindings, wings, and fins are, duh. But sometimes I see you guys posting about rocker things, rails, 5 stage this, 3 stage that, blah, blah. I want in. Can someone provide some definitions of all the common waterski parts? ( @Horton , I realize this post forever bans me from entering the "Advanced Topics" section)

@perfski, thanks for good deal on my new Senate-C. There wasn't a price on the internet more competitively priced than yours. Can't wait to get it in the mail. I'll be sure to check your site first when making future ski gear purchases. And if you ever need the best accountant there is with skiing experience, I'm your guy! :)

@perfski, thanks for good deal on my new Senate-C. There wasn't a price on the internet more competitively priced than yours. Can't wait to get it in the mail. I'll be sure to check your site first when making future ski gear purchases. And if you ever need the best accountant there is with skiing experience, I'm your guy! :)

@Horton made me do it. Went ahead and ordered a 2012 Senate C from Performance Ski & Surf. I'm not able to demo closeout skis in my area so I kinda have to go by the word of others. I guess if I hate the ski I can always sell it for a small (if any) loss. Thanks for the bit of input guys. That's all I needed! Now, hopefully my HO double Basis fits the ski.

Performance Ski & Surf has a 2012 67" on closeout for $444 shipped. Thinking that's a decent buy. Would anyone like to talk me into/out of a Senate C? Other skis I have read about and might consider: S2, Vice, Co X SL, I was on a 65" Co X SL last year but I was informed it was too small of a ski for me at 30 mph. My wife has taken over the Co X. I liked that ski quite a bit though.

I've been shopping all winter for a ski. Someone has a 2010 Senate-C for sale on SIA. Are there any major differences between the 2010 and the 2012? Wondering if I'm getting the same ski for less $ Also wondering if I should go Carbon or not

Sorry to butt in on this thread, but I too have been considering a Senate-C. I always hear people talking about them on BOS. I'm at the 15-off level. Slower boat speeds. I currently have a 2011 (older version) HO Triumph that I don't like very well (for whatever reason). The Triumph just feels so darn heavy and cumbersome. What I'm wondering is how far I can take the Senate-C. I'm looking to progress in the course as quickly as my ability will allow me. I'll be skiing the course at least 3+ times a week this summer (6+ sets a week I guess). I don't want to feel like I've outgrown the ski after one season. So, is the Senate-C a beginner, intermediate, or advanced ski? Will it out perform my 2011 Triumph?

yea... there's something about not being able to drive the boat and talk to the previous owner in person that makes me uneasy. I'm sure 99 times out of 100 i'd be fine with having a $22K boat shipped to me and the engine, gelcoat, and vinyl be in good shape. It's that 1 time out of 100 that scares the poop outta me.

If that boat wasn't in Texas i'd have to consider it. Thank god it's not closer because then I might actually have to consider not purchasing a 200

ditto what @Crashman said. Sad to not see a 200 or 197 at the Indy boat show.

Bumping this bad boy. C'mon. Daddy needs a new ski this season. I'll pay the shipping!

My recommendation is to drink water as much as possible. Stay away from anything else if you're serious about losing weight fast. Sugary drinks contribute to ugly calories. Carbonation isn't great for your health overall and I've heard it makes you hungry? (possibly just rumors but you better play it safe) Next recommendation would be to do ANY type of high intensity interval workouts. These workouts typically last less than 30 minutes. You'll do something intense for 30 to 60 seconds then rest for 30-60 seconds. You really get a sweat going. Simply google "HIIT workouts" and you'll have your work cut out for you. They say there's no better way to get your metabolism kick started and burn fat than high intensity interval training (HIIT) Another recommendation is to hold yourself accountable. Make a quick, simple Microsoft Excel spreadsheet and keep track of your days and what muscle group you worked out. Don't forget to take a rest once or twice a week. Sometimes your body needs to "reset" and obviously heal. Best of luck on your journey!

Great looking boat. It's hard to beat the design and style/appearance of a 197/X7. I love the look of those mini-towers too.

Hmmmmmmm...... if I could only see what the boat market is going to look like in 5 years...... I may be able to get this one at $31K, which I thought was a good price considering the condition. But now ya'll have me thinking I should probably back off

@mwetskier, he must have stole that boat. Impossible to find a 2008 right now at that price, let alone 3 years ago.... even without the trailer (2-3K) He could turn that boat today for a 6-8K profit....

I know a lot of you on here have 196's w/ zero off. I've got an opportunity to pull the trigger on a dandy. Boat is nearly flawless. almost 500 hours. Zero off, Limited Edition, 422 prop, amazing trailer. What would you pay? Thanks ballers

Extremely awesome. Watching a video like that makes you wonder how amazing an ESPN broadcast/coverage of a ski tournament would be.... *sigh..*

@ShaneH , are you referring to the fuel efficiency when you say throttle? Which one would you prefer in a shorter lake?