Will Nautique still make the 200?

[Ilivetoski]

Am I the only one who doesn’t buy that tower only weighs 100 pounds??

[oldjeep]

With no racks, pretty easy to believe.

[dbutcher]

I'll speculate along with everyone else. My guess is that the Nautique 200 is not intended to compete with the Ski Nautique. Why would Nautique build a new boat that would take sales from its flagship 3 event boat which is also new? On Nautique.com the Nautique 200 is listed as "multi-sport", and it is not listed in the "ski" boat category. The general video has very little emphasis on slalom course skiing, and I don't remember any jumping. On the other hand, the few shots in the video of slalom wake crossings do indicate a reasonably small wake. If it really weighs 400-500 lbs. more than the original 200, it cannot have as nice a slalom wake - unless the new hydrogate is magic (which I doubt).

[ozski]

Market position and perception is almost certainly the reason. Probably won't tow any serious events??? So a lot of upper level skiers will probably look to the flagship model anyway, can't wait to see how it skis and here's a question - Would Nate be allowed to break the WR behind it? :) (if it did pull a RC event?)

[Ilivetoski]

Yeah I’m sure that’s going to fool a lot of people who have never heard of the “Ski” Nautique 200...

 

@oldjeep what kind of material is your tower made of? Most of these towers are made of extruded aluminum (you have a Malibu, i know for a fact yours is made of that), your tower is well over 100 pounds

[Drago]

@ozski It's an approved boat for next season

[oldjeep]

@Live2ski mine is way over 100lbs. Made from huge machined aluminum side plates with a full tubular hoop and connecting/tow bars.

 

The one on that nautique looks to be just tube.

[jhughes]

Thoughts on what this does to the used 200 market?

 

I'm thinking not much. At 79K it still makes a 55K 2016 seem like a deal at 15K less. Additionally there might be value to having the last of the "non-liner" boats, and with DI motors to boot. Throwing a reverse-mold liner in has to be cheaper/easier than building the floor up by hand as an integral part of the hull. Plus better graphics, non-playpen bow, and saddle bags on the "classic" 200 might all sway someone to go 16/17/18 200.

[slow]

Loved it when Horton would quote his Carbon Pro boat weight without a motor.

[Horton]

@slow if I ever posted a weight for the CP it was the weight quoted to me by Centurion. I don't recall what I did say or when I said it but obviously if someone fed me a weight number without an engine that is disingenuous.

[ForrestGump]

How do they not laugh at the suckers who will buy these boats when creating an order sheet with an $11,000 tower or $1500 bimini.

[mbabiash]

I got a quote from a dealer that doesn’t know me at all. Nicely equipped. All seats. Cover. Bimini stereo single trailer for 78k

[bigskieridaho]

I like the boat and the fact that it is listed as a multi sport. The whole storage thing is a little bit misleading tho when most multi sport boats have a lot of storage for that type of family that uses the boat for more than just skiing. $11,000 for the tower? Wow! It is a Roswell style tower, so why not just order it without one and then get a tower from roswell for 1/4 of the price after? Like that the 200 is back at a more affordable price point for sure. Still think regular gauge cluster would be great as well instead of the screen.

[RAWSki]

@mbabiash that sounds about right and almost reasonable, I was wondering who really pays MSRP for boats or cars these days?

[mbabiash]

@RAWSki

I think it’s high. I can get a comparable pro star for 65k. 5.7 though.

[mdriggs]

$80K retail, but if you want ALL the seat cushions it will cost you another $1600. Isn't that like selling any road vehicle without all the seats. You don't really need them (you COULD just sit on the floor). But if you want them, it is going to cost you !!!

[ToddF]

422 dollars for a mirror upgrade?

Does it tell you that you are the fairest skier of them all?

[WoodySkier]

@mbabiash the MSRP of a pro star with basic options and no trailer is $87k, so it’s actually more than the 200. I agree that most people don’t pay MSRP, so you can’t really compare the MSRP with that.

[disland]

My personal favorite is the $289 trickle charger that you can get retail for $30. Only a 10X markup.

 

www.walmart.com

[Ilivetoski]

The cleats are nearly $500.... the CLEATS. I understand it’s a free market & they can charge whatever the please but my god

[thager]

Would have preferred the 196!

[jjackkrash]

I am looking at the options sheet for a 2019 ProStar. Pull-up bow and stern cleats are listed as $480.

 

Base with no options is $80,950, but if you click big engine and tandem axle trailer and no other option it is $105,240.

 

The boat with the options I would want (big engine, loaded, but no fancy paint, etc.) is over $120k.

 

What counts, though, is what you can buy the boat for, not what the fake numbers on the page say, which I doubt is going to be anywhere near $120k.

[KRoundy]

Remember when Water Ski did huge boat tests every year? We should have a Ball of Spray boat test. Pick a neutral site, get new or promo machines and let the BoS readers ski them. Everyone from guys learning to run the course to the crazy-good-shorline guys. Everyone rates the boats on a variety of factors and we tally the results. All scientific-like.

 

That sounds like so much fun I bet we could charge the skiers and raise money for a charity that we all agree upon.

[Horton]

@jjackkrash I am not going to comment on above prices but if you want the super hookup pre-order a promo boat. You design the boat however you wish, let me or @MarcusBrown or @brooks or your local promo guy use it for a while and then you take delivery with solid discount.

 

Please I want a 6.2!

[Dacon62]

So this is what killed the new Carbon Pro.

[RAWSki]

@Dacon62 yep that's exactly what I was thinking as I watched the video. They did basically what was planned for the new CP but did it with the 200 Hull . Have an open bow AWSA approved boat that would also appeal to families. Makes sense on many levels and I think this boat will be successful ---the only down side is Centurion-Supreme planned to run a promo program with their 6L ski boat.

[Horton]

@Dacon62 & @RAWSki

 

http://media.tumblr.com/fe497dd337d9af8479bb6398b9565d16/tumblr_inline_mg6n5ltl6X1rxe4lt.gif

 

[Horton]

@Dacon62 @RAWSki the Carbon Pro program failed on it's own. That is a long story that has been explained here a number of times.

 

The 200 is the 200. It is no longer available in closed bow, has a new interior and is made in Tennessee but it is a 200. It was a good boat and it still is a good boat but it is not some freaking revolutionary new boat.

[RAWSki]

Panda Time!? The CP aside, CC saw a need and found a creative way to fill it. Both the Orlando and Merced factories are supposedly at capacity making V-Drive boats so I applaud the company for finding a way to add a second ski boat to their line up. It's always a good thing for ballers to see another DD being produced.

[BraceMaker]

I for one kind of like the way the walk through looks on the 200, reminds me of the old prostar 205 bow entry with the jump seat.

[bigskieridaho]

IMO the intro price is great. So save some $ and buy the intro boat then add the stuff for cheaper later...... price problem solved!

[mlange]

I love how $75k is considered an intro price now. :)

[Wish]

It will be interesting to see which boat sells more over the next few years, the Ski Nautique or the Nautique 200. And which will be displayed at boat shows.

[Dacon62]

@Horton @bishop8950 ,

Guess I missed the thread on why the Carbon Pro died. Thanks for clearing that up.

[mbabiash]

Lots of 200s showing up on ski it again. Coincidence?

[Horton]

@mbabiash I do not think there are an unusual number of 200s on Ski-It-Again but thanks for sending me other there. I just wasted 45 minutes looking at old boats I would like to own.

[mbabiash]

@Horton

Glad to help you waste time. ?

There weren’t many until the last week.

[Horton]

@mbabiash there are 4 in the last week and more than 10 others on the page. That is not really a pattern.

[chipkimball]

@Horton Looking at boats is never a waste of time.....just sayin:)

 

[Teddy]

 

[mbabiash]

I’m ordering my 200 on Monday

I’m willing to sell next fall with 50 hours if anyone is interested.

 

[dvskier]

Looks nice, should be an easy sale.

[mbabiash]

@scotchipman

Yes. Grey is an option. I’m building it like this though unless he’s willing to put deposit down and I’ll build it however he wants.

[dshock]

Has anyone skied behind the Nautique 200, yet?

 

I think that the SN 200 was quite a bit heavier than advertised as others have speculated. It is very near capacity for my 4000# lift with a full tank of gas but that is a pretty imprecise meansurment.

 

Thanks.

Dan

[Stevie Boy]

Not a fan of Sea Deck, at our lake we struggle to keep it clean and eventually fail because the mud and silt gets ingrained, especially the back platform, but then I suppose you can strip it and put something else on it, shame there is not a option.

[skiinxs]

My first year experience with the seadek this year was great. When it gets a little dirty, stick a garden hose in, rinse it out, boat is dry and smells great in an hour, much better than stinky carpet that never drys, especially the part that went under the gas tank in the back. I can see where a minimalist bare fiberglass option could have advantages as well.

[TEL]

A group of use will have the opportunity to ski behind when our local dealer receives their first new 200 sometime in mid December. Our group has 30mph 15 off to 34mph 28 off skiers. I will get a short line skier to come out. Thankfully we live in Florida and the water doesn't turn to a solid in December

[blakeyates]

@Stevie Boy I believe I heard that the Sea Dek rep said that you can pressure wash it. Just be careful around the gel coat and your toes. :)

[mbabiash]

Has anyone out there skied or driven the new 2019 Nautique 200.

[JackQ]

I have 9 tournament round behind the 2019 Nautique