Baller addkerr Posted October 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 14, 2018 Nautique badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted October 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 14, 2018 @addkerr ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted October 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 14, 2018 I liked it. Clean lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 14, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 14, 2018 I do not see how they cannot badge it as SN. To iconic not to. Open bow still pushes better resale even for clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 14, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 14, 2018 @Wish. Agreed, proven hull, tried and true for 8 years. Much better move than coming out with a new Supreme Carbon Pro hull that would have had zero reputation. Not that they couldn’t have come up with a good product just the proven hull and name behind the 200 should make it a much easier sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 14, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 14, 2018 Wonder which boat will garnish more sales? Or will the 200 be a limited run or only made when ordered. Will dealerships even have them? I know when Supra was on their last years of the comp, you had to order one from a dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hk196 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Interesting news. Did they switch to the LINK panoray? Can‘t wait to see pix... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Golfguy Posted October 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just brand the CP hull with the SN brand and call it good. Improve fit and finish, a screen and away we go. a 2800 lb boat with a great wake without any do dads hanging in the water. Doesn't get any better that the CP wake. Same great quality at the MC wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3waterskier Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 If no vinyl on the motor box, what covers it? A fiberglass shell? If so, wouldn’t that be loud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DavidN Posted October 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2018 Fiberglass motor box with a seadek pad on top, no carpet on the floor, just seadek, no saddlebags, no under gunnel storage, rear vents moved to top rear corners, embedded in - right - seadek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted October 15, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 15, 2018 @D3waterskier I removed the vinyl from the American Skier project engine cover. I really couldn't tell the difference. The engines aren't that loud compared to the exhaust noise. Perhaps an engine that was muffled better might be more noticeable but I was surprised. It was a lot lighter! And cheaper! Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3waterskier Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Does it look cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 16, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 16, 2018 @d3waterskier not really from the pics I saw. Clean and simple looking done right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 @D3waterskier Of course it looks cheap, the American Skier is a 40 year old boat that has a ZO engine hidden under the naked cover. Maybe cheap isn't the right word - frugal? It is still a project boat. But the American Skier is a different thread... Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 Only parts that are a bit understated are 2 color gel, the motor box and the inside sides which are bare glass, like the base model TXi. Find it odd that they wouldn’t put a cut out in there or leave that area more open to allow for some storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 Nautique might as well just release the images. The majority of buyers or people who care are here, and already know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Sethro Posted October 16, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 16, 2018 And perhaps get some genuine feedback before it's too late, and the first models are released with something nobody cares for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3waterskier Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I agree. Not sure I like the idea of a “cheap” ski boat which will still cost more than most boats. My wife and I are both skiers but want an open bow and tower for our family - and are willing to pay for it. The 200 was perfect. Not sure I could move to an MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Seems they have 5 yrs of feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I hope this boat is done correctly and priced accordingly. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ilivetoski Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I’m not sure what everyone is so skeptical about. We have pretty much all skied & driven the 200. They aren’t changing the hull, so we know what we’re getting in those categories. If it’s stripped down, that’s exactly what people on this very website have been asking for for years. Even if it still costs $50K new (I think a base 200 in prior years was about $60K) that’s still wayyyyy less than the 2019 Nautique and a good amount less than a MC or Malibu... also personally I prefer the 200 over any of the other boats including the 2019 Nautique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 17, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2018 No way it’s coming in at 50k. Looks like a big reason the are farming out is lack of quality workers to hire. Google @Yeargins blog Probably better to go with proven workers at a proven company then put unskilled workers to test at current factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 My assumption is that it'll be priced right in line with the Prostar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted October 17, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2018 It seems like Correct Craft is doing exactly what people on this site asked for, the threads on the new one indicate people still want or even prefer the 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dacon62 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 @swc5150...so coming in right where the Prostar is I think around $66,995 ready to ski with basic options which for the PS are listed as, Snap in carpet. One ski rack. Bimini. Cover. Stereo. SA trailer. Does not include dealer prep, shipping, back seats, heaters or fancy floors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I have no insight or evidence of pricing, but it would just seem to make sense to price around the Prostar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 LOL, BOS had absolutely nothing to do about the new 200! These decisions are years in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 If not, maybe they should pay attention to BOS, and perhaps question their market research team? It's a sizable portion of the target market, which clearly MasterCraft has figured out, as I look to my left and up a post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 totally agree @swc5150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hk196 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The mrsp of the sn 200 ob 2018 was 78k or 82k as team. The sn 2019 ist 106k. The modifications will bring a pure sn 200. Pure, not cheap. So I can not see any reason to go under 80k.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dvskier Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 @MS I disagree. I believe Bryant to be fully capable of building a quality boat and the 200 has withstood the test of time. Simply Nautique is focusing on Orlando concentrating on the G23 and G25 big money boats Dow which it seems there is a huge market for. At $150-$200k who could blame them. At my level any of the current inboards provide a fantastic pull. I predict that a lot of 200's will be sold if they can keep the price point at $60k or thereabouts. Look on SIA for used 200's. Not many available compared to MC and MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I've been out of the communication loop for two weeks, so late in posting. Hey @horton, take a look back at your reply on July 26, to my post concerning Bryant building the 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LoopSki Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 looks like someone has some beer coming their way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 Well I didn't take him up on the bet! I just wanted to bring up the subject to show that my information was correct. I kinda backed off in my follow up post as I didn't want to have to reveal my source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 @LeonL I wonder if @Horton would've rescinded the panda he would've given you, if he wasn't traveling? :smiley: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 My dealer told me MSRP right around the same as the '19 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2018 I'm sorry I'm technologically unable to review old posts :- ) Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 17, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 17, 2018 @dvskier I agree with u and I was trying to say that. For CC it’s better to go with a proven builder at Bryant then to add more unproven workers at CC. There are however plenty of 5.3 200s out there and some can be had for pretty good prices. Not that I want a 5.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 17, 2018 Administrators Share Posted October 17, 2018 @LeonL Based on the below quote I stand by my threat of a panda. I really don't believe that rumor either. I heard it and repeated it to stir the pot Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 I am glad it’s happening. If you can partner to build 200s then why not. Other option would be to expand capacity but often that makes less $ sense than partnering. One concern would of course be canibilization of sales for the new boat. But, Nautique have been at this for a while and I trust they have thought it through. Think there will be any 200s on the promo team? Plenty of boats are USAWS tested and never see a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted October 17, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 17, 2018 From a couple of reliable sources the 200 will NOT be a promo boat of any type. The only promos will be the new closed bow Nautique. This new club 200 will be priced about the same as what was there 18 plus the usual 3 to 5% increase. Maybe a bit more if the new dash is included which I believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hmmmm no promos? Then why get it AWSA approved? So clubs can use the boat at their site events but then not see the boats at any Regionals or Nationals?? Too bad CC can't produce it at a lower price point perhaps just below the ProStar . But that isn't really Nautique's M O. And why charge less when most skiers will pay more--- they are in the business to make money after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCskiFreak Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 With where the price is coming in at for the club 200 it makes me wonder if they are finding out the hard way that the new boat with a cored hull is much more time consuming to make and between that and the added cost that the volume for the new boat just wasn't going to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hk196 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 With the sn200 OB we hat the problem with water spilling the bow when towing the tubes or at rough conditions and wind. Is there a solution? MC solved this quite good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LLUSA Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 @MS as someone who has served his time on towboat (8 years), we have rejected boats in the past, and if it doesn't meet the standards established by AWSA they will be rejected in the future. It's pretty cut and dried whether you pass or not. What concerns me are the dealers that invested in a $130,000 boat and will be lucky to get $80,000 for one, I know one dealer who has two promos, and has the revenue to sustain the program, but taking losses is not in the game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted October 18, 2018 Baller_ Share Posted October 18, 2018 @LLUSA you would think any CC would be tried and tested over and over and then released. Do we know the last boat that was rejected, when and for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiinxs Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 @MS The last one I am aware was MC failing the acceleration test the first year with Catalysts in the exhaust manifolds. I think the resolution was that the standard was relaxed. I know that supreme failed the same test in '93. The 92 Supreme CS was the last Supreme to ever pull a tournament, they dropped out after that, so boats certainly have been failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted October 18, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 18, 2018 So like one-two boats a century have failed? I know they are given the chance to re-prop or make modifications on site correct, I heard MC did some scrambling back in the 90's but they never truly "failed" a boat test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skiboat38 Posted October 19, 2018 Baller Share Posted October 19, 2018 Any of those modifications include a bank deposit??? Seems to fix a lot of issues in this sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mbabiash Posted November 7, 2018 Baller Share Posted November 7, 2018 If you could get a new 200 with most things you need. It would have new screen Zero off and a 6.0L. Would you buy one with fifty hours on it for 65k Just curious what people are thinking they’d pay for the new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.webp.8497384650ada8a3e4f1fd5dd6c3fb2a.webp)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now