Baller Deanoski Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Two weeks ago at a lk in the nw I had a prerelease out of my reflex 3 ball -32 and high sided toward the boat and my head went into my handle I have been using hard shell boots since 1990 started with ARC boots been reflex for 14 plus yrs with no problems ever. thank god I had a handle guard made of soft material the handle Caught my chin a released if the guard would of been a harder plastic material I believe it would of deflected more. I was air lifted to Harborview I tore the muscle and tendons in the right side of my neck broke no bones and no spin injury I’m in neck brace for 3 months I will have a 100 percent recovery. but please never ski or wake board with out a handle guard at least use duck tape plastic is best anything soft material can catch but is better than nothing but still dangerous God saved my life! Now it is my job to let the world know please always use a handle guard I have been skiing for 50 years and like everyone else it could not happen to me but it did. FM has the best one on the market right now I hope other big company’s start make them stock on their handles like I said before god saved my life now I need to let the world know that it can happen to anyone and please go right now and put a handle guard on or at least make one from duck tape Hard plastic that does don’t conform is the best Here is a few examples and one pic of the handle guard I was using god bless us all and may we ski short line forever Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 3, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted August 3, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thank goodness no more serious. Congrats on having the safety device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 3, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 3, 2020 @Deanoski, glad that the guard saved you and you will recover. I use the guard you show on the turquoise and black rope. I’ve been using some sort of guard for about 10 years. Thanks for sharing this firsthand reminder. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kc Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 So thankful you had a guard, and will make a full recovery! Thanks for sharing your story, and spreading the word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Wow. Glad you're okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller OldboyII Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 May be there are more accidents like this, but people do not report about them? Looks like guard is not a bad thing to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotDeepNotKyle Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Thank you for sharing! Never in a million years do you think it can happen to you. Because of your post, I am going to look to add a handle guard to my rope now!! God is great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KRoundy Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Wow! Glad you are going to be okay. I feel like I should buy or make 10 guards and give one to everyone that I know who does not ski with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Glad you're gonna be OK @Deanoski and thanks for the reminder! I put back mine 1.5 months ago when that other gentlemen wasn't lucky enough to get a warning... My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BobF Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Glad you're going to be ok. It blows my mind that I know some that still refuse to use one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller cragginshred Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Same here, I treat so many head injuries in the PT clinic it's a given I'm using a handle guard and a helmet while rock climbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 3, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 3, 2020 Started using a handle guard 3 years ago - never going back. Thanks for the reminder @denoski - glad your going to make a full recovery!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 4, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 4, 2020 Brenda will put a cross bar into her handles if you specify. You were lucky @Deanosk. Glad to hear the Gospel of the handle guard. Being safety conscious is just a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I tore my bicep recently no handle .... Was my first time skiing I knew no better :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Pretty Erie stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 IIRC, there was a Baller here who started making really excellent guards at a fair price. He got a "cease" letter from the lawyer of a patent holder who doesn't even provide the product. It is a shame that this patent hold can't even come to a minimal license agreement or something so that more manufacturers could offer products. I see too many home made solutions. I guess something is better than nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skimtb Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Deanoski or anyone I guess. Where do you get the one like in the first pic the posted? Not the FM one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted August 4, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 4, 2020 Thomas Wayne made the best handle guards a few years ago. He’s in Alaska. Not sure if he’s still doing it. Also not sure why he got banned, but he could excessively argue. Bob McVitty might know if he’s still doing them. @AkBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunperch Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 I miss TW, he was a good source of information and very entertaining!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LK_skier Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 I made this one - took 20 mins... and I haven't missed the handle because of it, which was surprising - I'll be making them for all my crew and kids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @LK_skier is that gutter guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 I am glad you are ok. A few years ago something similar happened to me, I fell with my face on the handle, the protection I had (FM) did not let my head go through, my chin suffered an impact that prevented me from chewing for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmskiboat Posted August 4, 2020 Members Share Posted August 4, 2020 Thanks for the reminder, I'm just starting down this path of skiing and such a simple thing can save your life seems like easy insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jetpilotg4 Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Deanoski Thanks for sharing god speed on your recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted August 4, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 4, 2020 Have used a guard on my handle for nearly 10 years now as have the rest of the family. @Deanoski glad you are going to be OK and going to ski again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 4, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 anything soft like netting or like to one I used will grab your head. the handle guard must be hard plastic and connected to the handle or you may wind up like me hurt bad almost dead even duck tape will conform the material must be plastic FM is the best one to use and that is what me and all my skiing friends will use from now on until some else make something better see attached like @Alberto Soares said if I would of had this style I would be skiing today and not in a neck brace for 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 4, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 h home made version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted August 4, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 4, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @ms the net and rope verse will catch your head or face the duck tape one is the best one you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 I have these available, you can add the strap to the handle if wanted. They are stiff HDPE not too flexible. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin1980 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Picture of the In Tow Cross Bar. Any opinions on how effective it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 4, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Martin1980 if that is all I had as a guard I would not be typing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @The_MS double fisting beers is probably the safest option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted August 4, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Deanoski Why do you say that? I claim it's impossible to force your head any significant amount into the intow setup, at least with the 12" handles that I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skispray Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Deanoski thanks for posting this information. I think it needs to be echoed and maybe spelled out, as you're doing us a service by sharing this info. Please correct me if this is wrong but here's the key takeaways that I got: Any handle guard is probably better than no handle guard Some handle guards are less safe than others Specifically, hard plastic handle guards like the Fluid Motion product will prevent your head from getting into the handle 'V' much, if any, at all Conversely, with a soft/mesh guard your head can still get into the handle, although not necessarily all the way through. This is better than nothing but can still result in the handle catching on your chin and doing serious damage Conclusion: Use a hard plastic handle guard! For what it's worth, I've had a hard plastic handle guard on my handle for over 10 years and in no way has it negatively impacted my skiing. I've hardly ever noticed that it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 4, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 @skispray you are 100% correct on the soft guards they will keep you from putting your head through the handle but will still grab your head or jaw and rip the s$%%t of your head or Neck a hard plastic guard will move away from and not conform to the head or jaw. please everyone put a hard plastic guard on and never let anyone ski or wake board with out one. my goal is spread awareness and keep anyone else from going through what I'm going through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted August 4, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 4, 2020 I don't get the opening in the upper handle with only a cross bar leaving place to an arm to go through and tougher to get out...? Might as well close that opening completely,no? My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slvrbulit Posted August 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2020 @mmosley899 I like your handle guard It looks great and seems like it would very effective. Is it heavy? I have the IN tow bar on 1 handle and a FM guard on another handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted August 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2020 Question on the rigid handle guards. How do handle swaps work with one of those in place? Can you still whip a new handle on the rope in 30 seconds or less? Lots of guys I ski with like to bring their own handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 5, 2020 Baller_ Share Posted August 5, 2020 @UWSkier, most current ropes have a loop big enough to change handles without needing to fold a handle guard. It has not been an issue for me. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RGilmore Posted August 5, 2020 Members Share Posted August 5, 2020 @UWSkier - These days most ski rope and handle makers either have larger end loops as standard, or offer them upon request, making handle changes easy no matter what type of guard you're using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted August 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2020 @slvrbulit the guard weights next to nothing and the large loops in newer ropes allows for easy changing. Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted August 5, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 5, 2020 @Deanoski - scarier than s--t. Glad you are OK. I've dislocated my elbow through the handle and used a handle guard for years, then somehow just let it slide the last few seasons. I will go put a handle guard back on NOW. I wish god would've seen fit to save Brett Yager and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 10, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 10, 2020 Thanks @mmosley899!! I installed my new guard today. Best $20 to spend in this sport for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mmosley899 Posted August 13, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 13, 2020 Another skier has suffered a major injury. Please find something that works for you and helps keep you safer... Mike's Overall Binding USA Water Ski Senior Judge Senior Driver Senior Tech Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 13, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 13, 2020 Please put a guard on now even if it’s duct tape live to ski another day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScottScott Posted August 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2020 Anyone see this video of Jaimee Bull. Incredible skiing. But, watch the slo mo of the crash at 6 ball the way she falls on the line. She is lucky something didn't go in that handle. Somebody needs to put a handle guard on her handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 16, 2020 Author Baller Share Posted August 16, 2020 @ScottScott she was lucky to not put a limb or head in the handle or get couch up in the rope and she does not use a handle guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller vtmecheng Posted August 16, 2020 Baller Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just made this. Probably a couple more zip ties than needed but it's a my initial try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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