Masters Qualifying

[Horton]

The next 2 weekends is Masters Qualifying. You may or may not love the format but  will be drama. ( no webcast)

 With some luck we will get live results at  https://www.iwwfed-ea.org/classic/ 

The official qualifying criteria is here https://www.masterswaterski.com/news/2024-masters-water-ski-criteria

A few thoughts on slalom.

 For men's slalom Fred and Nate are in and there are 6 spots left. Who is going to get the ticket?

For women's slalom Regina and Jaimeee and there are 6 spots left. Who is going to get the ticket?

I hear there is some jump and tricks too 🙂 

 

Below is text lifted from the Masters web site. Clear as mud

 

 

MASTERS QUALIFIER #1: The top finishers from multi round Masters Qualifier #1 (number determined by the chart above) with the single highest score in Open Men and Open Women slalom, trick and jump held May 9-11, 2024. The slalom and trick rounds of this event will be held at the Drew Ross Ski Academy in Winter Garden, Florida on May 9-10, 2024. The jump rounds of this event will be held at Jack Travers’ International Tournament Skiing in Groveland, Florida on Saturday, May 11, 2024.

 

MASTERS QUALIFIER #2: The top finishers from multi round Masters Qualifier #2 (number determined by the chart above) with the single highest score in Open Men and Open Women slalom, trick and jump held May 17-19, 2024 at Jack Travers’ International Tournament Skiing in Groveland, Florida.

 

**In order to be eligible to compete at a Masters Qualifying Series Event, open skiers must meet the following minimum scores achieved at a Class R or L tournament by December 1, 2023.

• Men’s Slalom: 2.5 @ 10.25 meters
• Women’s Slalom: 1 @ 10.75 meters
• Men’s Trick: 9,750 points
• Women’s Trick: 6,500 points
• Men’s Jump: 63.30 meters
• Women’s Jump: 44.0 meters

 

[unksskis]

How do we get DraftKings to add a Fantasy Waterski Masters, and/or odds to place on in legal states? 

[Horton]

@unksskis don't get me started. If I could find a way to bet on this stuff without worrying about breaking the law I would be all over it.

(I'm way too cute for prison)

[Drago]

How are Freddie and Nate automatics?

[Horton]

@Drago

YES

[Drago]

@Horton I actually thought you would know , 🤔.

I think: Nate is defending champ, Freddie is next on World Ranking list.

[NoahVieke]

@Drago Fred is World Champ and also won Moomba.  Both of those events had a masters spot up for grabs.  

[Horton]

@Drago Sorry I was not 100% paying attention.

What @NoahVieke said and https://www.masterswaterski.com/news/2024-masters-water-ski-criteria

[ETskier]

Figured the chart out. It spells out how many spots are avaiable in each qualifyer.  Based on the tournament winners listed above this chart on the Masters website.  So either Regina and Jamie won the five events in open womem.  That leaves 6 spots available, 3 in each qualifyer. Patricio ewon all the mens tricks. So 7 spots are avaialble,  3 at Drews and 4 at Jacks.

[Drago]

Thanks @NoahVieke 👊 

tanks for nothin' @Horton

[Horton]

[Horton]

The new USAWS live scoring. 

https://scores.waterskiresults.com/Tournament?SN= 24S339&SY=0&TN=Masters Qualifying Series I

 

[Cooper_Trelawney]

I look at the line up of men's and junior men's tricks and it's gonna be wild.

I seriously think trick skiing is about the most exciting event these days.

[Horton]

Caldwell just put up a 4 @ 41.  It's only round one so you never know what's going to happen but I'm trying to imagine a scenario where he doesn't slide into Masters. That's pretty cool shit for the Denali boys.

thinking about this a little bit more. Smith and Winter are not a factor because they are already in. There are certainly a handful of guys that can four or more. If Caldwell gets knocked out, that would mean the standard of skiing is amazing for May. No matter how the chips fall this is fun to watch.

[Horton]

oh it's getting exciting. Cole McCormick just ran a four also.

oh Lord. yeah it's going to be a dog fight. Caruso just ran four. 

[Taperflex]

Not sure who Brando Caruso is, but now there's  a 3 way tie for first!

[Horton]

I guess it was naive of me to think that Caldwell had secured a bid to Masters with a four. sometimes I'm a dumbass.

@Taperflex He's a super legit Italian kid. He's crazy to watch ski cuz he turns one side amazing and the other is a hot mess but somehow he runs big scores.

[kc]

And Dane just made it four with four…so far!

[BlueSki]

1 hour ago, Horton said:

No matter how the chips fall this is fun to watch.

Would be fun to watch, but alas, no webcast. You would think the Masters would have the budget to webcast the LCQs, which would help with the buildup to the main event. 

The tournament info says the top finishers with the single highest score. Does anyone know how they set up tiebreakers for the LCQs if there is a log jam?

[Horton]

@BlueSki what I've heard but I cannot confirm is it backup score breaks ties. there's got to be a rule somewhere. IDK

there is an opinion out there that because this is an amateur tournament, it should not be webcast. in other words, the pro events are sports entertainment and there should be a webcast, but that webcast should not be for amateur events that have professional participants.  it would water down the professional show.

is that clear as mud?

[The_MS]

@Horton same as Nationals, right?

 

[disland]

Why would they spend money when they can keep it all to themselves.

[Horton]

@disland This goes back to the complaints about the whole format. They are forcing pro skiers to compete at an amateur event to qualify for what is supposed to be one of the most prestigious events of the year. 

[Jody_Seal]

11 minutes ago, Horton said:

@disland This goes back to the complaints about the whole format. They are forcing pro skiers to compete at an amateur event to qualify for what is supposed to be one of the most prestigious events of the year. 

the qualifying format is wacked. if there is going to be a qualifier /prelim it should be on the water they are going to compete on. By the wed before the show starts at Callaway all the necessary equipment is ready to rock. might as well pull in a few local drivers and judges and hold the prelim/qualifier at that time. jump is already in place now!

Edited May 9 by Jody_Seal

[BGrow76]

Is round 2 slalom today, tomorrow or Saturday?

[Mateo_Vargas]

Go lefties!

[mike_mapple]

its no longer a prestigious event unfortunately. Its just another event they have to qualify for, Instead of always being the top 8 or what ever it was in the past. It shouldnt be called "Masters" anymore they should just call it the Nautique Pro at this point

[Mateo_Vargas]

@mike_mapple so instead of Masters maybe they can call it "Skiing pretty good at the time being"

[Cooleo15]

@BlueSki @Horton If you are tied for the top score there is a runoff. No backup scores used. Jon, Will, Daniel, Robert P, and myself got in a 5 way tie at 4 the first year they did this. Jon and Will ran 4 again the second round, Daniel and Robert P missed 39, and I ran 2. But we all ran off for the 2 spots or whatever it was.

[kc]

We’re all more familiar with big brother, Jaden, but Damien can hold his own! 😁

[buechsr]

That’s awesome!   Great skiers, and even better kids to be around!  Great job Kyle and Karen!  

[Horton]

Ok 4 guys with a four and only 3 can go though. Who is it going to be? 

[lcarnes]

Jon just put up a 4@41

[BlueSki]

Charlie Ross posted 5@41. Has he gotten a full 4 or 5 in a tournament before?

[kc]

There’s now six guys with 4@41. Will just joined the crowd!

[Andre]

Crazy good skiing early in the season!

 

[kc]

Make that 7! Joel 4@41

[Horton]

holy shit. I'm in the truck driving to the lake. just watching the scores pop up on my phone. bonkers

[Mateo_Vargas]

You should be hosting the watch party

[BlueSki]

So not a single one of the guys that ran 4@41 yesterday got more than 2.5@39 in round two, all going down early. This is how conspiracy theories begin.

[kc]

Just now, BlueSki said:

So not a single one of the guys that ran 4@41 yesterday got a more than 2.5@39 in round two, all going down early. This is how conspiracy theories begin.

I was about to comment on this. It makes me wonder, since they were the last four to ski today, if conditions suddenly deteriorated, or perhaps there was some opt ups going on?

[NoahVieke]

Had a brief exchange with one of the guys up there who said wind is a factor.  Tailwind 39 off the dock in the runoff.  That’s why so many started at 12m second round.  

[ETskier]

Charlie is in. So, there's 7 guys in the runoff for 2 spots? 

[RobHazelwood]

Sat on the bank now, wind is crazy, I got kinda lucky but after me it got crazy. Pretty much unskiable when it blows up. Calmed down slightly for Joel 39 tail but still tricky, will just had pretty much whitecaps… it’s sketchy right now for the last two

Dane just blew out at 3 ball in a mad tailwind… conditions are pretty sketch 😳

[NoahVieke]

Will, Charlie and Joel to Masters 

[Horton]

Charlie / Joel / Will 

[kc]

What about the ladies? Whitney had 1@41, Allie Nicholson 4 1/2@39, but there was a tie between Neilly, and Allie Garcia, with 2@39, for third best score. 

[NoahVieke]

Ross ran 5@38 in the runoff.  Allie G ran 4@38.  Ross qualifies @kc

[SHungerford]

Does anyone know if Charlie's run tie him for the CND open record as well? I think I heard Tony say during SwissPro that Jason currently holds the CND record at 5@41'

[kc]

1 hour ago, SHungerford said:

Does anyone know if Charlie's run tie him for the CND open record as well? I think I heard Tony say during SwissPro that Jason currently holds the CND record at 5@41'