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Now I just hope that our governing bodies do not use this new access to information and force drivers to focus on zero's down the course at the expense of the skiers Maybe they need to remove the "pattern" driving portion of the rule, I understand the initial need for it but with this type of tracking it could be easy to label "pattern driving", there is no hard definition of what that term means in relevance to the new data we now have available

@Horton show me a top skier that is forward of center, (and not tip biting forward at the finish of a turn), even those Nate pics show he isn't completely center, offside however so tough to do regardless and I agree wholeheartedly that the HUGE majority of us are far from center

Forward is a terrible term, "CENTERED" is what we should focus on in my mind

One of these perhaps...

She is incredible

"I just bought a Syndicate hard shell and I use a Radar HRT for a rear boot. I skied the other evening and took a fall where I released from the front boot. Sounds great right???" How on earth does this NOT sound like you are insinuating you were using the HO at the time?? Think the post needs one of these LOL

Ummm your first post COMPLETELY insinuates you crashed with a Syndicate and a Syndicate broke, I'm no the forum police here but kind of misrepresenting and making HO look bad when in reality there is no issue what so ever with their product...

not to hijack the thread but did anyone else notice how little he got up on the boat for that gate shot?

@skidawg if you ski my tourney in Sept I'll get on a plane to go to @Horton's with ya. OR maybe we can get skippy, @teammalibu, and @bigtex2011 all in the creeper van and road trip over!!! Who else can we pick up on the way??

@MrJones well I guess you can take Sept 1-24 off and fill your monthly quota that weekend! :D

@jcamp no, it was a WWSL event, the restrictions by most governing bodies do inhibit such events being FUN and EASY to run, we chose to make a choice to go with minimal tech and judges and we achieved a fair equal competition field that was higher than most C class and probably equal to a lot of ELR tourneys, Sure Path was used for the event and ZO of course, which is never wrong, so driving was spot on. All skiers were aware an agreeable to it all. Without a doubt one of the chillest and funnest tourneys we have ever had.

@MrJones @Horton @elr Geez sounds EXACTLY like the tourney we ran at Cottonwood this spring, Saturday 3 rounds, cash prize awarded in each division based on the WWSL (World Waterski League) Divisions, which are not gender specific all speeds at 15 off 22/28 off 32/35 off 38 off 39 off 41/43 off then Sunday was a head to head DOUBLE elimination using a +/- of a skiers highest score on Saturday. Cash prizes were given out for highest score each division and highest score and lowest score overall Saturday Cash was paid out for the top 3 positions in Sundays head to head, the super nice lady that won walked away with $600 in winnings overall I skied 7 times on Sunday and lost to that nice lady... FYI we will be doing another one Sept 25-27, c'mon over!!!

@AdamCord @adamhcaldwell maybe an XS for the ladies first??? I know of a few that want to try the ski

@MarkTimm Thanks for the reply, in regards to your question/statement of rule change, as I had posted the rule is in place, unless a competitor formally protests then and only then it should be reviewed, NO couch judges from afar can protest, no random person on shore can protest, it's pretty simple and not much to debate with current rules. Agree that judges sometimes make the wrong call, competitors who KNOW they erred should be honest and forthcoming but we ALL wish for less tech and PIA requirements for tournaments, so maybe we need to not want or wish for MORE ways to micro dissect every part of a tourney.

@MarkTimm just for clarification was there an actual formal protest from a competitor made as per the rule book? Without there shoudl of been NO later video review, the judges made their decision, (right or wrong), and unless there was a "written formal complaint from a competitor" then it should of been left as is per IWWF rules as US nats are RC these are the applicable rules Rule 13 – Protests & Video Challenge 13.01: Who may Protest and How it is done Protests shall be made to the Chief Judge only by a Team Representative and shall be considered by the Appointed Judges. Protest must be made in writing, must state the reason(s) for the protest and quote the relevant rule number(s), and must be filed as soon as possible, but no later than 30 minutes after the results of the event are announced and the Judges scoring forms are available for inspection. 13.02: Allowable Reasons for Protests Protests shall be allowed only for failure of the Competition Committee, Officials, Judges and Scorers to comply with these rules and only if this non-compliance with rules has an adverse effect on a skier. No protest shall ever be permitted on a judgment decision by the Judges except as noted in Rule (13.04). 13.03: Protest Submission Procedure Protests must be accompanied by the approximate equivalent in local currency of US$25. This amount will be refunded if the protest is considered reasonable by the Judges. b) Video Challenge in Slalom for Gates and Buoys when Video is used. If a Skier/Team Representative believes that there was an error in a score, he may challenge it by notifying the Chief Judge before the next skier goes out (or as soon as is judged practicable by the Judges) and by putting up US$250. The Chief Judge and a designated review Judge will review the video (boat video, or gate video). These two review Judges must be different from the ones who originally made the call. If they both agree on a score, that will be the given score. If they disagree or agree that the video does not clearly overrule the score given by the Judges, then that score will stand. The US$250 will only be returned if the original score was changed. AWSA Rules 7.04 Protest Procedure Protests shall be made to the Chief Judge and shall be considered by the Appointed Judges. Protests must be in writing, give the reason for the protest, be signed by the contestant, and be filed no later than 30 minutes after the results of the event are posted and the judges’ scoring forms are available for inspection. If there is a tie vote of the appointed judges on a protest resolution, the Chief Judge shall break the tie. 7.05 Protests Protests shall be considered only for failure of the tournament committee or the officials to comply with these rules. No protest shall ever be considered on judgment decisions by the judges except as noted in 10.08F and 11.09D. F. Judge's Scoring Errors: USA-WWF as a contribution in the skier’s name 1a. If a skier or skier's representative believes that there was an error in the score, he should notify the Chief Judge within 10 minutes of completing his turn and by putting up $100. 1b. All slalom tower configurations may use a form of video review challenge if approved by the Chief Judge and Technical controller prior to the tournament. The Chief Judge and a designated review judge will review the video (boat and/or gate video). If they both agree on a score, that will be the given score. If they disagree, or agree that the video does not clearly overrule the score given by the judges, then that score will stand. 3.The $100 will be returned only if the original score was changed. If the funds are not returned to the skier, they shall be forwarded to theUSA-WWF as a contribution in the skier’s name.

I'll be the odd guy out, I like it, the more time I spend in it, the more I like it, it drives great, has great sight lines, super comfy for all day tourney driving, Great power, good to ski behind, the 6.2 in any other MFG boat feels like a freight train. What they could improve is price (obviously) and make it an open bow, or removable lid option like the MC

@teammalibu just because you have the only Malibu that feels good to ski behind doesn't mean the rest of em are any good LOL ;)

@Horton when I got mine in spring we had a lot of talk between our usual senior drivers and other reputable ones about the numbers and what we should strive for as drivers to be within tolerance AND provide a great pull for the skiers. will be interesting, to see what people do with all this data, gunning for zero's is not going to equate to a skier having the feel of a "good pull" or give them a "good pull"

@C5Quest Ion is a regular flex, the 'S' is softer

@Horton just off-siding that poor skier!! lol, well except 1 ball Why would your goal to be zero's across the board?

@richfoster now your body shaming me! lol @teammalibu has the right answer, San Miguel here I come!

I have demo's if you like

@C5Quest no discoloration, if u want a pic texted let me know

@Skoot1123 Currently North, but will ship in price (USD) within Can/US

Medium RFF Denali C75 for sale, year old, great condition no marks or damage, just went to a Large size $1300 shipped