Baller skidawg Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 @Stevie Boy - Not Hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TWB Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 OB1 Perfect use of the left seat pay raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 @Onside135 Performance still had some of the vent-less versions in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 @brooks do you have any for demo at @theboardingschool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 67" are back ordered - just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted September 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 9, 2015 I skied a 67" with Eddie on saturday I was so earlier to the ball at -32 -35. wow is all I can say. Taking another set today. I fell a new Pb coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted September 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have 3 set on the new ski, just running -32 trying to get use to being so early. if I just stay on the handle longer the problem solved crazy early even in shat conditions. 67 fb 29.50 2.459 6.938 733 wing 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industry Professional brooks Posted September 15, 2015 Industry Professional Share Posted September 15, 2015 I have some demos but not a full set yet, they're cranking out at the barn as fast as possible and I hope to have them by the end of the month. Would love to see a bunch of you this fall down at the lake for coaching as well as demos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 So, this was a my door today... Made a quick trip out to the lake. Ran 2 @ -32 (just .5 shy of my tourney PB) very first set on the ski. Smoothest, earliest -28 ever in my life. Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markchilcutt Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Nice @toddl what size ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 @markchilcutt its a 67" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Love it @ToddL I had a similar experience. And ran just shy of PB in the first set. I'm in love all over again like I was 2 yrs ago with the green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 @schafer it looks wider than the green is that the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted September 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 17, 2015 This is all fine and Dandy if one can get a new Vapor to try out or even purchase! Went to Performance ski and surf yesterday and was told most all new product was going down under and that it would be a while before they become available. In the meantime..... Well Eddie call me back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rockdog Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yay we get first option! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 @schafer - looks like yours has the vent holes but no vents. Mine has no holes/vents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 17, 2015 FYI / FWIW, I contacted Perf Ski and Surf (BOS Sponsor) over a month ago and ended up giving them my credit card # to put me on the waiting list for a ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller aupatking Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 Back when I had $2000 worth of ski money to waste on this $200 worth of skier, I almost pulled the trigger. No skis were available in the US. I've had a chance to cool off and have decided i need to see @OB1 results/impressions before I jump in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @Chef23 I believe it is just a fraction wider. But the picture does make it look quite a bit. @ToddL yes it does have holes. And I'm gonna be getting the badges later in the fall for it. I sure do love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JAS Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 @schafer How would you describe the difference to Green. I'm thinking of the same upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 18, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 18, 2015 I am making the same jump - green to 16. I've only got about 1.5 sets on it. So, this is really initial thoughts. The 16 works with less input. I had to do less. My habit on the green was to give more input and be more active. That didn't work on the 16. Just stand on it and let it do the rest. Killer offside turn w steady tip attitude out of the turn. That's it for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted September 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2015 The '16 is more user friendly, easier to ride, symmetrical turns both sides, faster side to side, very nice ride!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimski Posted September 19, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hey Guys What are the comparisons between the three vapors I never did get used to the blue one never felt comfortable on it and felt that it didn't perform as well as the green one. I still ski on it now and then just so to see if it has changed while it sits on the shelf. How is the 16, ski compared to the 14 and the 15. Is the 16 a different lay up? With all the talk of the torsional flex of the 15 being softer what is the flex comparison between the three of them. I sure love the green ski. The blue 67 is for sale. Thanks Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller schafer Posted September 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2015 @JAS i only had 3 sets on in before the Transmission went on my boat. But its very fast and easy cross course, especially off the second wake i find im so wide and early, as i get some more time on it Ill let you know more of what i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rq0013 Posted September 20, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2015 Ive been on the 2016 vapor for a little over 3 weeks. (22-35@36mph). Ive been on all the vapors so far. This is ski is greatly different. I would say its the best Radar has made. The biggest thing is the ski stays more level through the turn compared to the 14/15 vapors. The vapors before had too much material up front which then pushed back at you-tip rise. I am in a better position coming out of the turn with this ski.The 2016 vapor carries out better, I think because of the shape and maybe the flex. I see my self earlier at every line length The 2016 turns easier for me, it grabs a lot of angle right away if you want. Softer tip flex on this ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihard Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm currently waiting on my 16 to arrive. Currently riding a Limited Edition red 2014 after selling my blue 15 model. Personally I still really miss my blue 15 ski. Starting to find better results on my 14 after resetting the fin and a few rides. Still haven't matched a PB on the 14 that I set on the 15 but after my rides last night I can feel it getting closer and closer. After all that................I sure wish I could post a picture of a long Radar box sitting at my house waiting for me when I arrive home! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted September 22, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 22, 2015 5th set into the new ski ran a nice -35 yesterday been tweeking the setting 6'1" 195 RRF 67 vapor 3 fb 29.50 6.939 2.449 733 9 wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 23, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 23, 2015 I've been adjusting to the shallower/longer fin settings that go with the 2016 shape, and got my foot around the 2 ball at -39 last weekend at the Warman tournament, it's feeling pretty good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ktm300 Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 @richarddoane Share your shallower settings? Water temp? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 @rq0013 what size ski, and where are your boots set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 23, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 23, 2015 @ktm300 water temp has gotten down to the low 60's, I moved my fin to 6.965 and 2.445 and .740, wing down at 9, front boot at 28 7/8, 66" ski, 6'/175lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 23, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 23, 2015 Holy cow, I'd be in a dry suit in the low 60s. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 23, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 23, 2015 @ShaneH the camaro shorty/longsleeve is working ok still, if I wasn't headed to Imperial in 2 weeks I'd be in my bag suit all warm and dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rq0013 Posted September 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 25, 2015 @unksskis 66. 6.931 2.472 .740. Bindings one hole back from center with sequence plate. I think it's around 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 25, 2015 I've been a little quiet about ski skiing on the 2016 because I have been pretty sick with allergies the past week. My balance is off (middle ear stopped up) and my strength is down. That said, I've taken some sets and I am still getting into my PB pass off the dock within 1-2 buoys of PB while sick. I have 3x the confidence on the pass leading up to my PB pass (used to be very iffy or frantic). It just seems to get smoother and easier. Any little bobble I can trace to something lacking in my actions and yet, the ski seems to just keep turning the buoys. I have noticed that if I get a bit back or a bit too far forward, the ski still seems to turn the buoy and set a pretty good angle out of the turn. Other skis would have either wheelied and not turned or dumped/hooked when too far forward. Not this one. I can't wait to get some sets on it back at 100% healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thompjs Posted September 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 25, 2015 @ToddL you are trying to get me to spend money I don't have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted September 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 25, 2015 @thompjs - It's up to you. Call the guys a Performance and discuss options. Before ordering, I spoke at length about what if I don't like the ski... They were probably rolling their eyes the whole time. Now, I just need to get someone to convince my wife that 2014 Vapor bindings look horrible on a 2016 Vapor ski. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JC McCavit Posted September 25, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 25, 2015 @richarddoane - Congratulations, looks like you ran into 39 off your last 3 tournaments. Were all the 39 scores on the new 2016 Vapor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted September 25, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted September 25, 2015 @JC McCavit - I 've had the 2016 since Nationals, so only the last 2 on the 2016, before the BD Broho I was on the 2015, @ToddL - confidence is one of the most important things to have with you in the slalom course, good skiing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 2016 Vapor Question ?? At Nationals I was checking out the 16 Vapor at their booth, and in a meaningful discussion with, lets just call him a most notable Factory Rep, so as not to influence the outcome of the question. He asked what ski I was on, and I told him a 68".Mapple 6.0, so I asked him how he thought the 68" Vapor compared. He said he would recommend the 69" Vapor instead. I asked why, and his answer was that the ski turned so well, had a tendency to slow down quickly, and accelerate even better, and that the extra surface area would pay big dividends..He sited Nate Smith as an example, being 155 and on a 67" Quest...His point was because Nate has a lot of extra surface area, he is able to load sharply at the finish of his turn, cast out early, and eat a sandwich while he rides a giant preturn..Thus being one of the reasons he makes it look so easy...He said, I've driven him, I know. I am 6'4" @ 225, and have always been on 68" skis, and start at 32off and hope to run 39 again, something I've only done in the past with PP and not ZO. So before I order a new Vapor, and please don't say buy both and see which one you like better.... Does he have a valid point that the 69" would be a better choice for the attributes mentioned above. Would Love to hear from some experienced Vapor riders as to their opinion..THX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 @Ed_Johnson I'd like to know how it works out if you do get A 69". I'm 6'2" 175 I was thinking of trying a 68". I've usually skied on a 67. But I skied on a 68 d3 x7 for a while and had no problems turning it. Skidawg is on a 67 I think he a little over 200 lb. @skidawg have you tried a 68 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller wtrskior Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 Jmac was riding a 67 '16 proto for most of this year, maybe 10lb more than nate with more muscle. Go bigger. I know most guys at 220+ are on the 69.5 amd loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Milford Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 @Ed_Johnson I have been riding a 68 2016 Vapor since Nationals and think it fits my size nicely. I am 6'2" and 195lbs. I skied the 67 and think the 68 supports me a little better. If I was you I would definitely consider the 69. I think it will support you much better, especially as the water gets warm in he middle of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 @gregy I have not had a chance to try a 68", may get a chance in the spring. I'm 6'2"-195lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 Straight from Andy and Kris: Ski the longest ski you can turn!!! My ski finish in 16.95 but my ass is out of tolerance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ed, go to Bill at Performance and demo them both. I'm still waiting on his call for a 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 Jim, Bill doesn't have any 16's to Demo, he's still trying to fill back orders...One of my ski partners just got his 67" last week after waiting a month...Seems to be a lot of them on back order..Plus, no one I know has even seen a 69" yet, so I don't know if they have produced any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eddie_roberts_jr Posted September 29, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 The 69.5 is not in production yet. The mold has been machined and I am in the process of sanding it now, or I will be as soon as I'm done typing this!;) Should be in full production next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted September 29, 2015 Baller Share Posted September 29, 2015 @eddie_roberts_jr .... Thanks for clearing that up...Looking forward to it...Make sure you send one to Bill Porter when you get it done !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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