Who is the shortest person to have run 41?

[ballsohard]

Who is the shortest person to have run 41 off at 36 MPH?

 

Has anyone under 6ft run it at 36 MPH?

[Horton]

Terry Winter runs it in practice when he is skiing good. Unfortunately practice doesn't count.

[Dirt]

I have been in the boat when terry has done it several times.

[Skoot1123]

Did Wim Decree ever run 41@36?

[liquid d]

yes

[liquid d]

whoa...oops...no, not 41, Wim could run 39 at 36.

[MattP]

Here is the official unofficial list of the guys who have run 41@36. Sacha, Jon & Will at 6’0”.

 

Jeff Rodgers - 1997 - 6’1”

Andy Mapple - 1998 - 6’2”

Jamie Beauchesne - 2003 - 6’1”

Chris Parrish - 2005 - 6’5”

Will Asher - 2008 - 6’0”

Nate Smith - 2010 - 6’2”

Jon Travers - 2012 - 6’0”

Freddie Winter - 2014 - 6’2”

Corey Vaughn - 2015 - 6’2”

Sacha Descuns - 2016 - 6’0”

Robert Pigozzi - 2018 - 6’1”

 

I’m sure y’all will let me know if I missed anyone..

[Than_Bogan]

Wow it would be hard to have a narrower range of heights unless the sport was Be 73 Inches Tall.

 

That is really startling when laid bare like that. Thanks @MattP!

[Jody_Seal]

Imagine if Reggie was 6 inches taller!

She's 5'4" has nearly run the 41 pass, maybe has done it in practice.

[The_MS]

I was told that Reggie ran 41 last week in practice prior to Nats.

[MattP]

@Gloersen yes, I took it off this list cause that is not an official score. I also took Ben off due to boat path issue.

[Stevie Boy]

A little bit off topic, but should there be allowances for Height, some sort of handicap system, there were several Pro Skiers who just didn't have the height, to challenge the Tall Guy,s, Jason Parades being one and of course Terry Winter, I am sure there are many others.

Would that be unfair to the Tall Guy,s ?

[Wish]

@Stevie Boy that's like asking if there should be leg length handicaps for olympic sprinters.

[Horton]

@MattP but you still included a few that are completely dubious.

[Horton]

@Stevie Boy that subject has been passed around for decades. Bottom line is at the elite end of sports you do your best with what you got. Life isn't fair.

[MattP]

@Horton yea... they are still showing on the IWWF list as an official score.... have to draw the line somewhere.

[Horton]

@MattP that's a fair point but now the official list of guys who have run 41 means so much less

[jimski]

Rossi ?

[MattP]

@Horton possibly. Should the list only be skiers who ran 41 in the US?

[Zman]

Being less than 5'8", with a wing span several inches less than my height, this topic depresses me. :neutral: People like Regina and @twhisper inspire me, and give me hope!

Another pretty amazing amateur skier that is impressive while being short is @richfoster getting well into 39 when he is clicking.

[JackQ]

Shouldn’t the NBA lower the rim for short players so they can be more competitive ? Although 6’2” seem to be the optimal compromise between greater reach and lower center of gravity, until 39 really not much of a factor.

[Than_Bogan]

@Zman This data also depresses me, because I am 6'2". So what's MY excuse!?

[TEL]

Cool I am 5’7” I have an Excuse. Oh dammit Regina’s 5‘4”

[Zman]

@Than_Bogan Hmmm... Maybe living in Massachusetts and that tunnel you can't always get through to get to your course? Move south young man!

Plus, you are a pretty accomplished skier.

[skispray]

@MattP where did you get those heights? Of course I could be wrong, but JT at 6’0” seems off. I would think 6’1” or 6’2”. And looking at him and Will Asher next to one another, I think JT is a bit taller. That may be faulty memory, but that is my intuition.

 

I’ve always been skeptical of some of the heights listed for pro skiers. For instance, I’m 5’10” and Marcus Brown is taller than me. Not that he’s as giant as the other skiers, but he isn’t a small guy. I do think Terry Winter is a bit shorter than me.

 

This is all my perception from being around these guys. Not that I really know any of them but you see them at clinics, ski schools, college tournaments, etc.

[MattP]

@skispray their personal profiles on World Waterskiers. Everyone lies about their height just as everyone runs 38 on the Internet?

[matthewbrown]

@skispray Marcus is 5’10”, Terry is 5’9”. Terry is running 41 in practice around once a week, definitely skiing the best of his life. Unfortunately, there are hardly any tournaments for him to get the chances he needs. He does however cruise it at 34 whenever he tries it

[richfoster]

@Zman Thanks for the compliment. So I am maybe 1/2 an inch taller than Regina and watching her makes me feel extremely inadequate.

[jayski]

not to hijack the thread but did anyone else notice how little he got up on the boat for that gate shot?

[escmanaze]

@MattP It looks like @Horton never responded, but I know that I, personally would be interested in seeing the US only list.

[MattP]

@escmanaze remove Sasha and Robert. And the TGas runoff was in Europe? If memory serves me right.

[Horton]

@escmanaze it's silly to assume that all elite tournaments in the United States are perfect and it is also wrong to assume that all foreign tournaments are imperfect. The sport needs to do a better job of enforcing standards but I don't think it is a country-by-country thing.

[richfoster]

I saw Sasha at Boris Laval’s lake and I didn’t think he was 6 feet tall. However, Manon was also there so I could have been somewhat distracted.

[CBR51]

Surprised no one has mentioned Dane M. I don’t think he has run it in a tournament but pretty close. I am sure he is running 41 in practice. Not too sure how tall he is? But I don’t think he is anywhere near 6 ft

I think Him and Terry have a real good chance of running it sometime soon

[Dysco]

@JackQ lowering the rim would be even more advantageous for taller players. Raise it completely out of reach and the best shooters, not necessarily the tallest, will gain advantage.

If the rope or bouys were adjusted for equal height/reach, then again, the best skiers would rise.

A buddy who does CrossFit (5'8, 155) can by body weight percentage, lift more than anyone in the gym, but gets crushed in competions skewed to the guys that are 6 ft, and 200lbs. When any competition gives advantage to a certain body type, that is the body type that will dominate.

[pregom]

I don't follow you, @Dysco - for weight lifting there are classes. Wouldn't a 155 lb person be in a different class than a 200 lb person? I like your idea of adjusting rope length by height.

[elr]

How do you adjust for 6’ + trick skiers?

[pregom]

Overall it’s probably best to leave things as they are. Like in basketball, it’s 10 feet and it’s too bad if you are vertically challenged.

[ISP6ball]

A 10' basketball rim doesn't keep a guard from draining 3's all day long. No disadvantage there.

 

A specified buoy distance with a specified rope length, that is only obtainable by body length, caters to taller (longer reach) athletes.

 

There will always be vertically challenged slalom skiers that are just gifted and can run extereme shortline. Think what their potential would be if they were 6", 8", 10" taller.

[Fast351]

Physical body types just do better at certain sports. Just the way it is. Look at Michael Phelps. The guy is built like a fish with freakishly long arms and huge hands. They didn't shorten the pool for the normal sized people.

 

I'd say that the extra 6" certainly doesn't hurt, but Regina is 5'4", and kills on the slalom course. It's not all about height.

 

[ISP6ball]

A little taller and she could be well into 43' off....

[brody]

McClintock I ran 5@41 in a tourney. Isnt Buford Danger getting close??

[skialex]

Now you know the shortest guy who have run it!

[Wish]

What is his hight? What’s amazing is there wasn’t much drama in his pass. Cleaned it.

[thager]

Not sure of his height but he is shorter than Marcus Brown who interviewed him after he skied.

[dbski]

I've had the pleasure to have a conversation with Dane and he does not tower over me. By the way I'm a strapping 5' 6".

 

[ETskier]

So Dane runs 41 today in a run off. Guess he's not officially in the 41off club. He's not real tall. At least the pass was in competition rather than practice. Maybe he gets an asterisk.

[A_B]

It sure looks like Dane Mechlar is under 6’. He ran it today in the runoff.

[lpskier]

Dane is 5’10”.

[thager]

Gesundheit!