Its not so black and white sorry. I think this is a discussion around definitions and how we are seeing the same thing but possibly interpreting and trying to describe it a little differently. I would describe what Nate, Terry, Robert Pigozzi, Thibaut, Marcus, Andy, Will and even Adam Caldwell do as a relatively fast transition but its all obviously very relevant to their weights, ski size, setup, angle and load. Nate is probably the closest to the flatter outbound ski angle out of all of them but he moves to that position quickly in my opinion. So my interpretation - the advantage of getting to that position quickly is that your unloading the ski from the pulling edge as efficiently as possible and allowing it to swing out and up on the boat, the way I see it a bigger faster ski makes this a little easier.