LCZ Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Another Lurker becomes a Baller... My ski buddy and I want to upgrade our '94 Nautique to a 2010 or 2011 SN 200. How much of a premium do you think it's worth paying for a boat with 100 hours vs. one with 500 hours? I can't get a handle on how much 400 extra hours impacts the resale value 5-10 years later. On a related subject, what would be a fair price per hour to charge other club members for usage, assuming they provide fuel? Thanks in advance for the help. This site is by far and away the best resource for slalom knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 23, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 23, 2012 http://static.cl1.vanilladev.com/ballofspray.vanillaforums.com/uploads/FileUpload/d3/58ac64a1489b541444f4342f544807.jpg This one is for sale! The boat not Clem! Want to talk price call me! Boat has a 6 liter and 200 hours also is a record setting boat! has history.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted February 23, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2012 How many hours a year are you planning to put on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Jody, I'll give you my boat, do your tax return, and ski with you from time to time for your 200. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 23, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 23, 2012 Clint you can ski with me anytime! But I am going to need some Chabo and your boat and my taxes done. I already told ya I would give you a smokin deal on this 200! Come off your pocket book! Also if You can make it to taco night this evening The Hunters are in town and they plan on a big night and weekend, Los Ranchero's Bring it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted February 23, 2012 Supporting Member Share Posted February 23, 2012 Welcome LCZ! Re your signature: I remember, with some fondness, the years that I was chasing national qualification. Here's an attempt at some advice: 1) Believe you can do it! 2) Try to get fundamentally better, not just incrementally better. This may mean getting worse in the short-term sometimes. 3) HAVE FUN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted February 23, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2012 SMRR has a club boat and charges about $40/hour. That is the break-even costs for about 125 hours of usage a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted February 23, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2012 Larry, Check out all the promo boats from the other members here on Ball of Spray. The boats are well taken care of and a good way to support the guys that support the tournaments. I will have a 2012 available at the end of the season, doesn't have the Clem factor that Jody's boat does, but still a nice boat. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCZ Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 @jody seal - Appreciate the offer but those colors are tough to swallow for a Browns fan that still lives in the Cleveland area. @ral - We'd be lucky to put 100 hours per year on the boat. Work gets in the way of skiing too often... Thanks to the others that posted as well. We'd definitely consider a promo boat from BOS member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 23, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 23, 2012 Are ya playing football or water skiing? Got to get your priorities straight If ya want to succeed in this Game! Football taint going to get you to the Nationals,,, Roll Tide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted February 23, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2012 PM sent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemsondave Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I charge $15 a set, but I ain't too smart. I did a big spreadsheet several years ago when I had a 196 promo. Break even was over $40/set. Several promo guys on here, including me. I may have my 2012 sold, but first one with the $ or signature! Still time to change the colors/options too. Not sure if you can wait till Sept for delivery though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 How many boats have I tried to sell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCZ Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I've been ready for three years. Talk to my ski buddy about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashman Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 if you buy a boat from another member make sure they've attended the Kevin Lee Boat Care Academy. I'm pretty sure the boat I just bought from him has been stored in a sealed bunker for the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 You've got a Carbon Pro next door for the perfect price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 I did a comprehensive, multi-year study last year and determined $48/hour plus fuel is the break even for 100+ hours per season. SMRR charges $39/hour but that is for a 2007 boat whose depreciation is not as dramatic as a new model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller waterskigirl Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 So, with fuel prices skyrocketing just before the waterski season, it begs the question...what have you guys figured it truly costs in fuel in say 8 pass slalom set/15min? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 We run a flow scan and depending on speed and how many falls and turning around. six passes is from .7 to 1.1 gals for a six pass set @ 36mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller waterskigirl Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 Cool thx, have you noticed much difference @34 or if you shut the boat off at each end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 I did a test with shutting it off at each end and it was not a factor. This is on a 343 07 nautique. All passes from 30-36 were about the same .7 to 1.1 gals for a six pass set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 @ntx What is a flow scan? I'd like to fiigure out gas usage per set on my boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 @joey seal Is ur boat black or blue & yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller WBLskier Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 Any thoughts on how gas consumption would compare on a 98 malibu echelon with a 325 Monsoon to the 343 '07 Nautique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller WBLskier Posted February 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2012 Oh--and what if you were say running 34, 32 or even 30? Any thoughts on what impact the drop in speed has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted February 24, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 24, 2012 MrB: It is dark Charcoal /Metallic and yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 @jody seal very sharp colors,I wish I was in the market! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2012 LCZ, we've got three promo 200s available this year if Jody's colors don't float your boat. A classy black center stripe/white 2011 team 200 which is available now with 80 hrs. A metalflake blue/silverflake 2012 team 6.0 boat(think dallas cowboys colors) that will be available in September. And then our own personal demo redflake/black 2012 team which could arguably be sold any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted March 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2012 At Warman Lake to you all winterize or is the boat house heated enough so you dont have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rwskier Posted March 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 4, 2012 Our winters are usually pretty mild. We have outlets at each boat that are set to come on with a thermostat. We then keep block heaters on the engine just in case. If it gets unusually cold I will normally get up there and drain the engine & heater core just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted March 5, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted March 5, 2012 nice looking boat @rwskier, hopefully you're bringing it to the Memorial Day Weekend, 3 rounder at the Broho ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 5, 2012 Administrators Share Posted March 5, 2012 @ntx can you tell us more about flow scan? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCskiFreak Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 It is simply a flow meter with a gauge that allows you to keep track of real time fuel usage. They are 6 or $700. www.flowscan.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted March 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 6, 2012 Horton, We use it to track gas usage for our members. It consists of a gauge that we mount under the dash. It reads current usage (instant gallons per hours) and also displays a total usage. The instant gal/hour reads like a tach and the total usage reads like a odometer. The guts of the system has to be installed in the fuel line. There are two senors. One that reads fuel from the gas tank to the engine, and a second one that reads from the engine back to the fuel tank. We have been using this system for about six years. We move it every year or so when we change boats. The system should work on any inboard but we are running nautiques. We now have it down to a art where the sensors are mounted on a plastic sheet about three inches wide and 18 inches long. We have it set this way to allow us to move it as a unit when we get a new boat. It has been very durable and in use in at least three or four boats. Accuracy has to be set in the beginning. There are dip switches on the back. Several settings both for idle consumption and operating range. With skiers who sit at both ends of the lake, you have to get the idle switches set. We fill the tank and run a full tank thru. Then add gas from a five gal can and adjust accordingly. We have found that a average slalom set is about .9 gals. Believe it or not, speed does not have a huge effect on consumption. Maybe since it takes longer to run thru the course at the lower speeds, it averages out with the higher RPM's You can get more info at floscan.com We use the rec marine gas model 5500 series. Pretty good stuff and does exactly what we need it to do. If you go to this system I have a bullet proof spread sheet that I then use to calculate members gas cost based on several factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted March 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 6, 2012 @horton See post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rwskier Posted March 6, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 6, 2012 @richarddoane Pretty sure we were planning on coming to that tournament but i'm not sure if it will be ours or Goodman's boat. we have our meeting next month so we will know for sure then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregDavis Posted March 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hours on Nautique 200. Difference in price is about 18 to $20 per hour. i.e. a2010 nautique 200 with 100 hours vs a 2010 Nautique with 300 hours. The one with 300 hours is worth about $3500 less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregDavis Posted March 7, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 7, 2012 by the way, I will have a low hour mint 2012 for sale in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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