Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 5, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 Weight is a bad thing in skiing.....even if its from muscle. The best combo is light but strong. Look at Jeff Rodgers, he's a perfect example of this combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohioriverskier Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Agree with T!!! I had that conversation with him. I am an ultra marathon runner, wanna be body builder, lift every day, run every day, eat healthy, etc...and here's NATE..."I can run for 16 seconds!!!" "I don't lift, I don't work out..." He kept telling me to stop using my muscles to ski. This is why I wanted to ski with him. If I can ski better without working so hard I'll get hurt less- this is the way I looked at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nate Smith by definition could be considered to be a water skiing "Prodigy". Anyone that knows Nate understands that he is truly an ambassador for this sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 There is a point where you cannot replicate or match natural talent......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JohnCox Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 Nate is a nice, polite young man. I've met him several times, and he's been nothing but good for the sport to me. I took this shot Saturday when he was just inside 2 at 43 (he ran 41 in 3 of 4 rounds...). He dropped the handle when he didn't get around 2, but as he ran up beside the boat, he thanked the boat crew before they got away.....pretty cool, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 5, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 5, 2013 No Bimini on the Nautique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JohnCox Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 Not that one, @MS. I think the other one that was used some during the tourney had one. I know the Centurion had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 @MS If it is not over about 85 degrees out, I prefer to not have a Bimini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 5, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 5, 2013 Even in Minn the drivers always got pissed when I didn't have a bimini on my promos. Of course they were also pissed when I didn't have a heater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_M Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I think @T-fromTO hit the nail on the head. Being a life long tall/thin guy, there seems to be an animosity towards my body type by those who fall under "buff' category. I remember in high school winning pull-up and sit-up competitions in gym class and the big football players who always bragged about how much they could bench-press being pissed that I doubled their scores. I think people who would otherwise appear to be way stronger than Nate are jealous. However, he gives us thin guys hope and makes everyone re-exam certain paradigms concerning the ideal body type of a slalom skier. Unfortunately, I can no longer blame my lack of performance on the water on my lighter body type! Regarding personality, he's obviously a reserved, humble individual who fell in love with skiing and got addicted just like the rest of us. @Killer, you don't have to be loud to advance a sport; just look at Gretzky (who similarly took a lot of heat because he was so damn good and a relatively small player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted June 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2013 @Brian M. - here here. Well said. No disrespect to the ballers that can bench over twice their weight as that really is quite impressive, but I never understood the drive to bench big weight with respect to sport performance unless you are an O or D lineman in football. If lifting itself is the sport, then, yeah, makes sense, but in most sports leg strength, core strength, and a high strength to body weight ratio is much more desirable (along with other talents like balance, agility, speed, explosiveness, great vision, coordination). This isn't anything new in slalom - tall, lean, strong has always been desired. I think Nate brings a lot of natural talent to the table in addition to his slalom physique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 5, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted June 5, 2013 #%$!*&%ing natural talent. Not that I'm jealous or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 @jimbrake All the bench pressing is good for in football is picking your arse off the ground after the opponent puts you there with proper blocking or tackling technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 6, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted June 6, 2013 Since I can bench about the same as your typical 100 lb. girl, I am liking all this "bench press is useless" talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 6, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 6, 2013 @Than_Bogan. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JohnCox Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 I spent a ton of time in the gym during the winter...and am finding that it was not a benefit. More like a detriment...dangit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 You have to tune your workout for the activity you are interested in, but I don't see a downside to using any muscle that would otherwise be ignored. The more overall control you have over your body, the better you're going to be at any sport. Nate obviously has inNate fine motor skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 6, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think things like Basketball, Hockey, Racquetball and biking are great workouts that keep you in shape and work the core very well. They are also fun to do and great for the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 @MS, what about channel swapping while holding a can? In my view, coordination skills can be even further improved by balancing a bowl full of chips over your legs. Great proprioception exercise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted June 6, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 6, 2013 @ral Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 6, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 6, 2013 @ral I will give that a try next winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller John Brooks Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 Is it time for the Panda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 I think @jimbrake is picking on me ;-). In fact, he is right. Power lifting doesn't help my skiing. It is just something entertaining to do in the winter. The good news is that I only actually power lift one day a week. The rest of the days I do other exercises which are more beneficial to a person my age who wants to keep skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 6, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 I was just waiting for @Razorskier1 or @6balls to chime in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jimbrake Posted June 6, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2013 @Razorskier1 - oh hell no. Seriously give you props. I'm the same size as you and I never benched over 205 and that was a long, long time ago. Never worked on it either though. My point was unless you are a power lifter, which you are, I don't get the fascination with bench which isn't very transferable to many sports, yet it has to be the most popular gym exercise there is. I guess big bench numbers just gets the chicks. That has to be it. Funny, your signature - rehabbing another knee surgery just for fun. I'm doing exactly that myself. Four weeks out since surgery number four (scope number three) on my right knee. It's not happy. Been back on the water for about two weeks, but can't really bear down on it like I want to. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewski Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Nates killing it right now. When I skiid with him right before Moomba, he said hes gotten 3 @43 in practice, so I wouldnt be surprised to see that broken by the end of the year by the kid whose skiid the most 41s in recent memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted June 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2013 @jimbrake -- ya, second scope on this knee. Lots of floaters and torn up meniscus, along with arthritis. It isn't happy skiing. I look forward to seeing Nate (or Will or CP or . . . ) add another half or whole to the record! I am also anxiously anticipating some stud 34mph guy running 41! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted June 7, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2013 @Razorskier ...some stud 34 guy did run it....goes by the name of Cowboy Roy Rodgers! same guy to run 41 first at 36mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted June 8, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 8, 2013 @Liquid When Roy starts skiing in the BD, just write him the check and leave him at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Heard that too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Updated thread title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 http://www.iwsf.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 12, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted June 12, 2013 wooooooooooooooooot! I am pumped. Time to go after that pesky 3 ball!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ntx Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 @klindy me too. Someone sent me a text about six hours ago. Very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 That's gotta be killing CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 CP won't be sitting on his but, he will rise to the challenge..The bar has been raised !!! This is Great for our Sport !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller KcSwerver Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 awesssssoommmeeee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Very cool congratulations to Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bdougherty Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Is there a video of this somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted June 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 12, 2013 Simply awesome for our sport!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 Great news for skiing, D3, and congrats NS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 Geez all the bench press bashers. Really, it's useless other than bench press competition, gym cred, scaring people, and it is kinda fun. Having said that since 2010 when I hung up my wrist wraps/weight belt, quit lifting freakish heavy and dropped a bunch of body weight I ski better and easier (BOS has helped, too, as well as some coaching and @razorskier1). I still hold my own in the gym but used to have to cut significant weight to make the 198 lb weight class for bench tourneys. I weighed 180 even a few days ago which is what I weighed as a HS senior...but I can still out bench @than_bogan! @razorross3 is now the family bench press freak of nature. Strong enough is important in skiing, but if XS power means XS weight it's counter productive. Nate is testament to that statement. My bet is the kid rounds 3 ball soon in a tourney if for no other reason I suspect he runs more 41's than anyone giving him more shots at 43. I know I'm pulling for him....and CP too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 Anybody know how tall Nate is? 6'1ish maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jim Neely Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 @Texas6 I stood next to Nate at the Masters and was basicly looking him eye to eye. I'm 6'1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller GregDavis Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 Lets see, Nate can ski in the Big Dawg in 18 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 @GregDavis and KLP will likely still be competitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Than_Bogan Posted June 13, 2013 Supporting Member Share Posted June 13, 2013 @6balls You may literally be able to outbench me with one arm tied behind your back. But that might at least make it a contest! Damselfly Power!! Anyhow, go Nate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted June 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2013 @6balls has turned into a little girly man ;-). I have dropped from 205 during winter weightlifting season to 195 now. Another 5-10lbs will likely drop off of me if I can ever get water time and get out of the gym. In the meantime, kudos to Nate Smith! Awesome achievement to tie the record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gmut Posted June 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 14, 2013 I understand that Nate tied the record with Jeff Gilbert at the helm of a Ski Nautique 200 open bow. I wonder if that boat will be for sale any time soon? Anybody have any info on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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