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This place looks amazing!! If I'm ever in CO definitely have to stop by.

Right on!! @C5Quest

@tjm i ended up taking some surface area away. Those settings you’re at are great. I ended up at: 29 3/8 from bottom of base of vapor boot. 2.485 6.845 .755 9 If you’re on a different boot than a vapor Go 29 9/16.

@boscoman I don't think that's the same engine, so yours might not have it. The newer 6.0L is called the MPI I think. If yours does have it; it would be right on top towards the back of the motor. Two hoses come from each side and between them is the valve.

@jayski That sounds like the check valve in the back of the motor between the two hoses. Usually if you rev the motor it will clear the air pocket that gets stuck in there and you can literally watch the gauge fall in temp instantly. We had this problem in our '20 6L and I bought the higher end check valve straight from illmor and its been good. "knock on wood" The one that comes from the factory is a cheap plastic one where the illmor one is made of brass. the actual name is pressure relief valve.

@rico used to ski there a bunch, he can give you a lot of info on it if that's where you still plan on going. @MDB1056

Not really, If a ski is to small its very tough to work with that. Moving the bindings doesn't change the surface area of the ski; plus by moving the bindings forward from where they should be it would make it harder to ski on. You're essentially locking the tail in the water as you move the bindings forward. So it becomes more difficult to turn as the tail won't want to slide. From what you're looking for in your original post The Union is your best bet as it has more width than the senate. a Bigger ski=more surface area which equals easier to get up on and ride.

@OldboyII I would definitely revisit the Senate but a 69" you'll find it takes little effort behind the boat and in the turns and would suit you better than the 67". IF you can't get your hands on a 69" senate. The other option I highly recommend would be the 69" Radar Union, its 4 tenths of an inch wider than the vapor, which gives it an even bigger platform to stand on and more stability. A very user friendly ski by all accounts.

@rawly I'll have to come watch ya ski and well get you dialed. To answer your question though, the edge change is never really automatic, it might look like it. It only is possible if we have enough speed and angle from the previous turn to be able to stand up when you want (first wake/behind boat) to initiate that edge change. Its all cause and effect.

Forgive me as I didn't see the date originally posted. Hope he got it figured out though!

@Anderson Feel free to PM me and I can help with your setup on the 22 Vapor and we can tweak that offside to get dialed in!

Joel Poland hands down.

Yeah @jpattigr its full. I just talked to @brooks on it. Its always the one to fill up quick! Yeah any of you west coasters on here, we still have spots for the CA stop. You wont regret it! Get signed up! Promise you its a fun day out there!

Hey Ballers, The 2022 ski season has already started and here’s a chance to get a jump start with coaching/demo gear! We’ll be hosting the Radar clinic on May 6th & 7th at Creekside Lake so come ski/hang with @brooks and I!! Hope to see you some of you there! The Radar Nation tour Is a multi-stop demo series that allows local skiers to have fun with fellow swervers and try new Radar gear in the process. We’d love to welcome you with open arms to the Radar Nation, so whether you want to come out and demo the latest Radar Skis or you already ride a Radar and just want to come out and ski we’d love to have you. We’ll have a beautiful new Mastercraft Prostar to rip behind. This day is completely FREE and full of rad times and shredding. Sign up today at: https://radarskis.com/radarnationtour

Jason Paredes. He might of won one but not sure. He also competed against Wade & Andy with a handful of others so it was tough scene

@wilecoyote That's pretty much a one handed gate from what you explained unless you meant something else.

A great way to think of gate width isn't so much about how wide you actually are but your speed. If you're moving faster than the boat in your glide which is what you should be doing, you know you're in the right spot. The key is staying faster than the boat all the way up to your turn in. The line shouldn't be tight but also shouldn't be super lose. I like to use the word taught. From that point we should be able to turn in before the line gets tight right as the boat is pulling away from us. By doing this we're putting ourselves in the best position to accept the best connection to the boat and the ability to work before the boat through the course and not behind it. Being narrow you can still run short line, you're just choosing your line through the course. Its a fast, hard line instead of having space, time and being flowy. There's probably a better way to explain this but this is one way to think about it.

@otcjb Yes Radar works in 2 year iterations. So 2019 was a slight change based off 2018 and then 2020 was a new shape. in 2020 the overall width of the ski had been decreased to allow the ski to have a more level ride. The Rocker was modified to increase the drive behind the boat and allow the ski to create more angle before the buoy. Also we increased the concave and let it run through the tail of the ski to give more support. All in all id say the 2020 is more consistent turn to turn for sure. Plus you're 4 years on your current ski, so you would definitely feel a benefit from upgrading.

If you're not in a rush I would honestly hold off until the used boat market stabilizes and there is more used boats available. The prices are inflated and you're going to pay way more than what a boat is worth no matter what make, model, year it is. If you don't mind the price; then be ready to jump on it quick like @ FSSPCat said.

Heard the horror story on someone who thought that ad was real a while back. They lost a ton of money. 100% stay away.

Like @wolfeie said water is always in the back of our minds, but it is definitely one of the best places to ski hands down. Besides Florida the list of states you can ski comfortably from March to November is pretty rare. On top of that we have some of the most consistent ski conditions there is. @Fastguy888 I do think your costs are a bit over the top. Its not to that extreme. As far as the smell of manure you honestly don't even notice it after a while and only get it when the wind blows in a certain direction. I think its toned down over the years. There is so many great people at the lakes it makes up for the lack of amenities nearby as well. @rico is one of the newer owners he might chime in on this.

@ALPJr see correction.

@ALPJr It does not come with the insole the bottom of the chassis is now contoured.

@StevePops yeah I'd still go 67"

@StevePops 67” sounds like the go to for sure, but how tall are you?