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@aupatking shipped you some shells and cuffs to try out, including one of the new MOB prototype boots and a custom cuff. Have fun and let me know how it goes. @HSL is right, UV can make the plastic shells brittle in a short time. Protect them just like you protect your ski. And remove your liners to dry out.

I agree that we need more public courses and clubs to promote the sport. We are fortunate to have a couple of courses on public lakes near my home. However we see very few skiers on the lakes other than to ones who have been at it for a while. I regularly ski on public water these days with my daughter, son in law, and grandson. There are very few kids learning to ski these days on the public lakes. We are always glad to pull or coach anyone interested! I would like to see more events like what @OldGuysRule runs on area lakes. Fun social skiing events are great for promoting the sport. I like the bouys, BBQ, and beer concept.

@floridagm absolutely you must install inserts into something that will hold them, not the foam. There are discussions here on that topic and Eric’s method is discussed in greater detail. It would be great if the ski manufacturers would at least put the reinforcement material in the skis in the trick insert pattern.

@aupatking I think a number 10 shell. Look for number inside the lower part.

@NorthIdahoLPO I still have a S2, I’ll have to check to see if it is the 67 or 66, I had both.

@aupatking that is a pretty complete failure! I guess the plastic can get brittle, but I have some of those same boots(Universal Skate Design) and have not had a problem. I can send you a replacement if you wear my size, brand new one, not my old one...

@Bookm_dano I shipped your new systems Friday, lol... Add the inserts if you can, I added them to my EVO. D3 is putting forward inserts in their new 67&68” skis, like what the Reflex long plate uses. I plan to make plates to fit that hole pattern also. Currently the MOB plates have the same hole pattern as the D3, Radar & Quantum trick ski. @vtmecheng is correct. It is extremely important that the MOB mounting plate be firmly attached to the ski at the point where the boot plate engages the release mechanism. If not the plate can flex upward causing unexpected release. If you need to replace the tape, it can be found at an auto parts store. Information is on the website. If the tape is not sticking well, clean the surface of the ski. @OscawanaSkier No, the original OB plate matched the HO exo hole pattern, the MOB plate hole pattern matches the standard trick ski pattern. I will have an optional hole pattern to fit the D3 pattern, but it would be great if all the ski manufacturers would adopt the trick ski hole pattern for the longer plates. @ToddL Like @BraceMaker said, I pull the release lever and remove the boot from the ski to get in the boat or on the dock. Then I can remove the boot from my foot. @ScottScott unfortunately the new part will not fit retro actively without a modification to the spring housing. Contact me and we will can get that done for you in the off season. I am always working to make the system more user friendly and appreciate skier feedback. Thanks for your support!

@vtmecheng @BraceMaker I am currently testing an add on part to eliminate the need for tape, but it would be great if all the slalom ski manufacturers added the inserts up front like D3 is now doing.

@jercrane I have been using that shell for five years. I’m not sure why that strap is there in the first place. I don’t have one on my boot, and I cut the height of the cuff lower to free up my leg movement. That way you can more easily use your foot to control the ski.

@Iski61 the MOB system will release in a twisting or sideways fall. Once your ankle is broken, it is broken forever, recovery is never 100%. Choose the best option for your experience and ability, but no system will protect against every possible injury.

@Orlando76 @skialex I skied on a double hardshell MOB type release system for twenty years, never had only one foot release. The HO system does not release in multiple directions like the MOB system does, so putting the MOB release on with that type could lead to problems. The double boot MOB release system is the safest system available. I changed to a half boot rear style binding a couple of years ago. Only took a few sets to get comfortable to it. I have had no problems with any releases, however my rear is cut much lower than the Reflex R style. Also I do not over tighten the buckles. My rear liner is also cut low. You should not need to feel like there is anything around your ankle.

Eliminate the need for this:

@BraceMaker I agree! All the trick skis have those forward inserts, and so should slalom skis. The new D3 skis do have two forward inserts but they are not the same as their trick ski pattern. The two additional inserts are in line with the remaining front inserts, which requires a different mounting plate than a trick ski. They do match the reflex xl plate. Making the trick ski insert mounting pattern the standard on all skis will help with interchangeablity. All MOB mounting plates currently have the trick ski mounting pattern, but the D3 pattern will be available soon. FYI I added trick ski inserts to my D3 skis.

@Orlando76 what do you mean by a rear hardshell? A rear boot or a rear release system? There are multiple options for both.

I used bungee laces and skipped the bottom loop on my HRT.

@Than_Bogan you might want to research the requirements to be inducted into the Hall of Fame...

@OldboyII most of the parts are made of polycarbonate, the mounting plate is anodized aluminum, the spring and screws are stainless steel. Rinsing in fresh water would help prevent corrosion.

@Texas6 I agree with @Booze but I think you have a couple of former Bama skiers at Lakes of Katy to talk with also...

@Lars looks like you hit the buoy, then crushed into the ski before falling, the key thing is you did not end up in the ER! Let me know if you have any questions about using the system.

@ozski the height off the ski is exactly the same as the Powershell system and some rubber boots. The side to side roll is similar to the Powershell system also, not so locked in or rigid as the Reflex system. You may not see as many skiers using the MOB system because it has not been marketed as long. But the system has been around for quite a while, I have been using it for years. While I am not a ‘pro’ skier, I have regularly skied into 39off 34mph using this system. So the system is not as likely to affect your performance as a broken ankle, knee or leg.

Thanks to @aupatking I rode his 2018 68” EVO for my second tournament round this weekend, used my same fin settings only forward to .760 and binding slightly back at 30 3/8”. Dropped the speed to 32mph first time ever, M7... The ski felt great, ran right up to 5@32off, stumbled a bit around 4 ball, moderate head wind. Overall the ski felt very comfortable, but the speed felt slow. Maybe I’ll try it at 34mph, and move the binding back a bit.

@bigtex2011 no typo @aupatking i’m in your neighborhood this weekend, if the wind quits blowing I might like to ride that 68 inch Evo.

@SkiBeKaus you can rotate the boots on the MOB system. I’m not sure if that will solve your issues, but perhaps @BraceMaker can give you better direction on that.

@OldboyII molded hardshell water ski boots do not exist, they are all adapted skate boots. The boots I use are ice skate boots(the Supershell). Radar and Connelly both make a great soft fit water ski specific boot. I am in the process of having a new customized hardshell boot developed, but still derived from a skate boot. The need for comfort and fit for so many different feet makes it hard to make the perfect boot for every skier!

@OldboyII you can use the Syndicate boot on the MOB system, but I have not tried to mount one, so I don’t know exactly what might be needed. You probably would want to use the Syndicate cradle that the boot sits in, as that boot has a very high heel lift molded in, which is why I rejected that skate boot as an option to use years ago. As for testing the release, how do you test snow ski boot releases before you go snow skiing? The torque wrench gives you an exact value of the tension required to release. Once that is known, adjustments are up or down from that point. My springs are each tested to fall within a very close and specific range. Knowing the specific compression length and the specific resulting pressure allows me to measure the compression using calipers. My chart gives you a guide based on height and weight, then each skier can determine his best adjustments from there. After you determine that setting, it is not likely to change. I test my release for proper operation every time I ski, but I only check my setting with my calipers occasionally. I seldom do more than a visual check of the scale on the adjustment screw. FYI this is an adaptation of a snow ski style release system, but I manufacture my own parts. Please note that I have used this release system for twenty five years with no ankle or knee injuries. I agree with @BraceMaker, you should never have to yank test a properly designed mechanical system!